Welcome to our forum. A Message To Our New and Prospective Members . Check out our Forum Rules. Lets keep this forum an enjoyable place to visit.

AAA
Avatar
Please consider registering
guest
sp_LogInOut Log Insp_Registration Register
Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
sp_Feed Topic RSSsp_TopicIcon
Catskill Mountains Waltzes and Aires
Tune Book Talk
Topic Rating: 5 Topic Rating: 5 Topic Rating: 5 Topic Rating: 5 Topic Rating: 5 Topic Rating: 5 (6 votes) 
Avatar
ABitRusty
Members

Regulars
September 9, 2022 - 8:57 pm
Member Since: February 10, 2019
Forum Posts: 3140
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

This has probably been shared before so apologies if have. 

 I purchased this and highly recommend for anyone that likes tunes along the lines of Ashokan.  Most, if not all, are fairly easy as far as the notes go, but depending on where you are could be played at any level I think.  Theres alot to work on as far as tone, vibrato, dynamics and such.

Mountain House, Brothers Keeper, Lovers Waltz, Ashokan... many others like these in it.   It also has chording suggestions.

Its spiral bound and about the size of a college type journal or lab logbook.  Smaller than 8 1/2 ×11.  Most are 1 page..some span 2 pages.

If you like Jay Ungar and Molly Masons tunes, get it.  Heres a link to melbay but its on Amazon too.  On the melbay link you can click on contents and see the listings.  Some of these havent been recorded so some easter egg type tunes if looking for new things to try

Catskill Mountains Waltzes and Aires

 

 

 

This one has been played by members here a few times..look for them!

 

one of the reasons I got the book.  

Avatar
Mouse
September 9, 2022 - 11:06 pm
Member Since: December 26, 2018
Forum Posts: 4509
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

@ABitRusty The samples you posted seem to be within the type I like to play, not jazzy or fast fiddle that sound like jazz to me.

Is that what they all are? I looked at the Mel Bay site and Amazon. I couldn't see any samples. 

Is this entire book all songs a perpetual beginner can do? Meaning, do they progress and get harder? I am interested, very interested, if the songs don't get progressively harder, and unplayable. I think I have plateaued. I am not looking for challenges that I will never meet. I just want pieces I can play and work on and smooth out.

Thanks.

🐭

The Bumblebee Flies!

Avatar
ABitRusty
Members

Regulars
September 9, 2022 - 11:33 pm
Member Since: February 10, 2019
Forum Posts: 3140
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

@mouse yes..they are all pretty much like this.   the harder tunes are the exception in this.  what theyve done with this book in my opinion os take out all the embelleshments you may hear in the recordings and break it down to a base melody.  The good thing is it is still the tune.   you could use the book and play along with those videos.

This tune was notated in all quarter and half notes with the exception of 1 measure.   A really good one to work on long bow strokes ...dynamics, swells by chaging speed and pressure..that kinda stuff.  vibrato obviously if one is at that point.

 

NOW..most all the tunes are a mix of eighth and quarter notes...but as you hear they are slower and in in waltz time so i think a little easier.  Mountain house has some tripletts notated but i think listening to that tunes recording helps with it.  

theres something for everyone in it and not overly complicated.

Avatar
ELCBK
USA
Members

Regulars
September 9, 2022 - 11:39 pm
Member Since: June 10, 2020
Forum Posts: 6225
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

@ABitRusty -

Thanks! 

I really enjoyed the Jay Ungar & Molly Mason workshops at the last Fiddle Hell.  

Love playing Brother's Keeper from when you 1st brought it to my attention - learned that easy notes can be deceiving - makes great tone production with the bow even more important & is something I'll probably be working on forever... 

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/8c/15/1b/8c151b04d81748ca44f2612715f31ffb.jpg

Avatar
Mouse
September 10, 2022 - 7:09 am
Member Since: December 26, 2018
Forum Posts: 4509
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Ordered it. Thanks, @ABitRusty.

🐭

The Bumblebee Flies!

Avatar
ABitRusty
Members

Regulars
September 11, 2022 - 11:45 pm
Member Since: February 10, 2019
Forum Posts: 3140
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

clunky Prairie Spring rendention from it.  yup..need some long bowing work 🤣  sorry for the crow meal i filmed.. kinda late to reedit

Avatar
Mark
Members

Regulars
September 12, 2022 - 12:12 am
Member Since: September 30, 2014
Forum Posts: 1939
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

ABitRusty

I really like that tune, it's been on my music stand for a long long long time and I have never taken the time to learn it.

You play it well,  great video I enjoyed watching and listening to it.

I'm hoping in a couple of months to get back to practicing, life's been crazy busy since April.

Thanks for posting.

Mark

Master the Frog and you have mastered the bow.

Albert Sammons

Avatar
Mouse
September 12, 2022 - 7:22 am
Member Since: December 26, 2018
Forum Posts: 4509
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

@ABitRusty , That was fantastic. 

I received the book yesterday. I thumbed through it and the pieces are just as you said. What a great addition to songs! I love that it is spiral bound. A HUGE plus. 

🐭

The Bumblebee Flies!

Avatar
ABitRusty
Members

Regulars
September 12, 2022 - 8:13 am
Member Since: February 10, 2019
Forum Posts: 3140
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

thank you @Mark .!  I agree he wrote a great tune there.  Fun to play.

thanks @mouse !  yes I like the spiral too.   It makes it easy to lay flat on stand.

Avatar
ELCBK
USA
Members

Regulars
September 12, 2022 - 2:51 pm
Member Since: June 10, 2020
Forum Posts: 6225
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

@ABitRusty -

Love your "Prairie Spring" - including your backing! 

I'm hesitant to add another music book to the stack I have growing out of control right now, but think you might have me convinced to splurge.

 

https://logos.flamingtext.com/Name-Logos/Emily-design-hogwarts-name.gif

 

You really did great filming the crows, too!  Can think of a few more tunes that footage would go well with... if, you'd only caught a little more carnage. 🎃

Avatar
ABitRusty
Members

Regulars
September 12, 2022 - 3:15 pm
Member Since: February 10, 2019
Forum Posts: 3140
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
11sp_Permalink sp_Print
5

thanks @elcbk .. 😁  the books start multiplying after a while!  

yeah..the footage has a few miles on it lately 😉  Think they had them a racer ..probably left over from bush hog.  I need to break out the laptop, i have a bunch of footage/pics there that wouldve been at least different.

Avatar
JohnG
Greater Chicagoland
Members

Regulars
September 12, 2022 - 6:59 pm
Member Since: April 16, 2021
Forum Posts: 1591
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
12sp_Permalink sp_Print
0

@ABitRusty - What a great tune! You also put together an excellent video with a fitting backing track. Thanks, Greg!

The old curmudgeon!

Avatar
ABitRusty
Members

Regulars
September 12, 2022 - 9:21 pm
Member Since: February 10, 2019
Forum Posts: 3140
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
13sp_Permalink sp_Print
0

thanks @JohnG ..  theres lots of great tunes in this one!  backing just some basic strumming.. nothing more.  and didnt have to try and figure out chords..theyre right there above measures so I just recorded the fiddle track and then added the chords.   not sure if thats best but seems to work okay..

Avatar
JohnG
Greater Chicagoland
Members

Regulars
September 12, 2022 - 9:53 pm
Member Since: April 16, 2021
Forum Posts: 1591
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
14sp_Permalink sp_Print
5

@ABitRusty - I'd say a lot better than okay.

The old curmudgeon!

Forum Timezone: America/New_York
Most Users Ever Online: 696
Currently Online:
Guest(s) 85
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Members Birthdays
sp_BirthdayIcon
Today None
Upcoming Sofia Leo, TKDennis, FiddleDetroit, CookiesViolin, JPferrman, Designer 88, LyleA, Stephen, Dorque, Trisha, Elaisa, wonderputz, Gordon Shumway, dougga, Russionleo, JohnG
Top Posters:
ELCBK: 6225
ABitRusty: 3140
Mad_Wed: 2849
Barry: 2687
Fiddlestix: 2647
Oliver: 2439
DanielB: 2379
Gordon Shumway: 2287
damfino: 2095
Kevin M.: 1973
Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 3
Members: 31252
Moderators: 0
Admins: 7
Forum Stats:
Groups: 16
Forums: 80
Topics: 10210
Posts: 128908
Newest Members:
FlyBeaglesFly
Administrators: Fiddlerman: 16267, KindaScratchy: 1760, coolpinkone: 4180, BillyG: 3744, MrsFiddlerman: 2, Jimmie Bjorling: 0, Mouse: 4509