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Looking for very easy repertoire in or adapted from the classical re-workings of Eastern European folk music.
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My current learning context is Chicago's Old Town School of Folk Music's fiddle program, which presents US "old time" music mostly. I am there because of the interactive/social aspects of the program: as I see it, if I don't learn to play with other people, I might as well not bother. 

BUT my musical interests are mostly in Eastern European folk music, especially folk dance music, and in the classical material that derives from/meditates on/reworks those traditions. It's not too hard to find the dance music at a level that works for a beginner. Does anybody know of repertoire suitable for very early on in that vein of classical? (Individual pieces OR a compilation, etc.)

(Posting here on the theory that the answers are mostly likely to come from, and be of interest to, folks who teach...)

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Hi Martha (and others).  I think that I can help you on that.  Years ago I bought a book of Chopin Mazurkas transcribed for woodwind instruments, mostly for flute.  I believe that they would be suitable for the violin (certainly for the viola).  I will go up to the attic and try to find it.

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@Martha 

I'd suggest Bartok.

I recommend this book

http://www.boosey.com/shop/pro.....CD/2235596

It starts at beginners level, so don't let the p.34 sample put you off!

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Interesting. For children but some children are virtuosos 😉
I'm actually not familiar with this book.

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@Fiddlerman  A book I would love to know about, if one exists, is a graded student book of Bach violin solos. What can you suggest?

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You mean the unaccompanied Bach Sonatas and Partitas or something else?

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Fiddlerman said
You mean the unaccompanied Bach Sonatas and Partitas or something else?  

Yes, those and anything else more or less originally written for solo violin. ABRSM grade 5 sees this sort of thing slowly creeping into the exam canon.

But since I asked the question, I've been playing a simple Corelli piece and thinking a Corelli book would be worth looking for too. (Your rendition of La Follia is superbly played, although highly romantic - that's sort of a lol - please don't take it as criticism - did you romanticise it or did you find a score that presented it that way?)

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Don't worry, I'm not that sensitive.
Normally I like playing Corelli the baroque way but then many people don't think that the instrument is as good. Since that performance was done for an instrument demo I turned up the heat.
I'll play it much less romantically when I play it for myself. 🙂

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To go along with Andrew, I just purchased Bartok’s 44 Violin Duos (split into 2 volumes).  To understand what they should sound like, I have the CD by Angela and Jennifer Chun.  My understanding is that all of the music is played in the first position.

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This graded series of four books might interest you.

ABRSM Baroque Violin Pieces. Book 1 is grades 2/3; book 2 is grades 4/5.

ABRSM like you to attempt some 3rd position stuff for grade 3, but I can't see any obvious places where 3rd position is required, although of course I'm not qualified to say, and the book doesn't contain any fingerings.

There are a couple of places that jump an octave from G on string 3 to G (on string 1?) and I wonder if some players might instead change position for that?

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Hi Andrew.  Just purchased all of your suggestions.  My stage of violin training is becoming interesting.

Referencing your message postscripts.  I just got done reading Starship Trooper (much better than the movie).  The author suggests that a juvenile logically cannot be delinquent, since children by definition owe society no duty.

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Irv said
Hi Andrew.  ...
Referencing your message postscripts.  I just got done reading Starship Trooper (much better than the movie).  The author suggests that a juvenile logically cannot be delinquent, since children by definition owe society no duty.  

Lol, in fact my sig is a John Waters quote!

I'm not a big fan of Verhoeven. Indeed Sci-Fi is not my thing, although I read John Varley's Millennium once, and that is very moving. I've got the DVD of Starship Troopers - Im OK with the fact that it's very much tongue-in-cheek, but I doubt if I'll keep it after I've watched it a second time.

I've also got a DVD of Turkish Delight (aka The Sensualist, original title Turks fruit), but it's an original Dutch release without subtitles, and my Dutch isn't really up to it!

Andrew

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Fiddlerman said
Don't worry, I'm not that sensitive.

Normally I like playing Corelli the baroque way but then many people don't think that the instrument is as good. Since that performance was done for an instrument demo I turned up the heat.

I'll play it much less romantically when I play it for myself. 🙂

  

I recently bought Grumiaux's Corelli Op 5, but I was very disappointed with it.

If you or anyone else has a favourite recording of Corelli, I'd be interested in hearing about it.

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I don't, but I'll keep that in mind when I listen.

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Fiddlerman said
Don't worry, I'm not that sensitive.

Normally I like playing Corelli the baroque way but then many people don't think that the instrument is as good. Since that performance was done for an instrument demo I turned up the heat.

I'll play it much less romantically when I play it for myself. 🙂

  

Pierre, which edition of La Follia do you recommend? I have the 1914 Schott by Léonard/Barmas, but there are things about it that I'm not keen on. Ugh, in fact I've only just realised it's incomplete, among other things.

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I'm not sure. I seem to remember another version that was simplified but the one I play has "Variations sérieusee" Edited and fingered by Leopold Lichienberg. See if you can find that one.

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Fiddlerman said
I'm not sure. I seem to remember another version that was simplified but the one I play has "Variations sérieusee" Edited and fingered by Leopold Lichienberg. See if you can find that one.  

Thanks, I will hunt for that.

I'm asking because the ABRSM have prescribed some of the variations for their grade 5 exam, and I feel ready to start working on it next month (the material, not the exam). Oddly, they ignore the second section (bars 17-32), and I can't decide if it's because they think it's too simple or too difficult with those positions shifts (what's your opinion on that?). And I'm aware that there are a lot of different fingerings for that section too (some involving harmonics, some not), so having several copies is no bad idea.

But in fact yesterday I realised I had volume 1 of the Baerenreiter op5 because I found it in a charity shop, so I ordered volume 2 - I can't have it incomplete, can I!

And it seems like I did the right thing, as the Lichtenberg seems to be published by Schirmer, and it's unavailable in the UK (I can't imagine why). Abebooks have located a copy in San Diego if I want to pay $60 shipping, lol!

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