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I think I'll send the shop an email tomorrow, I thought of a couple questions about the home trial of the bows 🙂 

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I'll keep an eye out. 🙂

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Lol, I actually just got off the phone with Mike to set up trying out a couple of bows. I should just have your shop on speed dial amuse

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YES!!!, Great idea!!!

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The bows arrived safely yesterday... love them both, this is going to be a hard decision.... I like them both for different reasons, lol. I'll think I'll have to have my teacher try them out at class on Monday so I can hear what they sound like when they aren't right by my ears 🙂violin-studentviolin_girlpink-violin-girl

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Sounds like a good plan. 🙂

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damfino said
The bows arrived safely yesterday... love them both, this is going to be a hard decision.... I like them both for different reasons, lol. I'll think I'll have to have my teacher try them out at class on Monday so I can hear what they sound like when they aren't right by my ears 🙂violin-studentviolin_girlpink-violin-girl

certainly, see what your teacher has to say...  BUT

play play and play on them, same stuff on both, and keep playing until you feel it.  trust yourself.  you'll see...

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@micra For sure 🙂 I've been playing on them over and over, getting a feel for them with different song, listening to the slightly different sounds they seem bring out (even stood the violin up and bowed on it cello style to hear it away from me, lol). Having my teacher play them will mostly be so that I can hear and see what they do when played by someone who can play way better than me, lol. The more I play around with them, I'm starting to get a favorite, though 🙂 

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That is the best way to do it. Play on them for a while, and then switch till you get an idea of which one reacts and sounds the best.
I agree with you about letting your teacher test them for you. There are techniques that she/he can do at this time that you are not yet using which can help her guide you to the best choice. You'll also be able to listen from more of a distance which will give you another dimension.
Added bonus is that your teacher will get to see our bows. 🙂

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I think she will like them 🙂 She's been impressed by both my violins so far, but just thinks I got lucky with them being so good, lol. 

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Ahhh - @damfino - I'm jealous !!!! ( LOL ) - little chance here to either have access to different bows ( strings, sure I can do that ), or, and as you point out probably more importantly - to get a "reference point" by listening to someone else play my fiddle with my bows....   It would be really nice to be able to explore these options....

Best of luck with making your choice(s) !!!  I'm sure whatever you choose will be great !

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@BillyG It's fun trying them out, for sure, I just have to stop wanting both of them and pick only one, lol. 

I wish you had local shops or teachers closer to you . The violin shops around here are for the most part a 30-45 minute drive, which annoys me more than it should, lol, since that really isn't far at all.

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Bill, are you still interested in doing the Fiddlerman Cruise?
If so, I can bring dozens of the best bows we have in any price range you are interested in. Also, I can play on them with and for you. I can also give you my professional opinion.
I may even bring nice violins with me. 🙂

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Hia @Fiddlerman - yeah - you maybe missed my post on the chat - I saw you some days back but I suspect you had gone by the time I posted.  

Basically, what I said was, I'm still waiting to get confirmation of the holiday periods the extended family can book for late-March through to mid-April ...  I expect to have heard from everyone involved come mid December (i.e. when they can arrange their next-years-holidays for our extend-family-get-together) - and I will let you know for sure - I absolutely hadn't forgotten (or given up on the opportunity!!!)

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I may even bring nice violins with me. 🙂

   I bet you WILL man - wouldn't expect anything less...    ^5s !

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Very cool. 🙂

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This is a great discussion in here, and so i want to tell about my experience in bow shopping. My local violin repair man happens to be an professional bow maker. That in itself is very interesting. I didn't buy any of his personal $$$.$$-$,$$$.$$ bows but i tested bows in the $100-$200 range. I ended up purchasing a bow at $119.00 made from a nice Brazil wood stamped S.Pierre. The bow itself is a dark color with lots of grain lines, it looks like it was made from a nice tree because of its grain. I'll post pics soon...

btw, my previous bow was made from fake wood with a nasty warp, and stamped 'CHINA' underneath it. Funny because the $250 I spent on my violin outfit clearly went entirely to the instrument...

anyways new bow story:

four bows two cf and two wood; the cd bows I felt were to light. Simple is that, at the time I wanted something that was balanced across the strings and that has weight to the tip of the bow so that I can play a strong g string, but not to heavy that it is sluggish.

After acquiring my grainy brazilwood bow I've only had it rehaired once. My violin repa man / bow maker Gregg uses Siberian horse hair for his craft and so I suspect I'm ready for another year of playing. I think this $119 bow has enough balance to be perfect for my $250 fiddle.

 

The bow feels so great in my hand; that I often have to remind myself to keep moving my wrist when playing at the tip of the bow.The bow feels so great in my hand and it plays like velvet and is balanced.

 

finally, I think in terms of pricing often times especially in the violin community, your paying for a brand or name. Often, in my experience; quality and affordability can be found in the most conspicuous of places.

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I sent an antique bow to Fiddlershop to see if it was worth repairing, upon them examining the bow there recommendation was to not to repair as it was not a high quality bow and not really worth the expense to repair correctly. In talking to Michael I quizzed him about some of the bows they sell as to the differences in them. He suggested the 2 Star Holstein bow it being a bit stiffer than the Holstein bow. I have had issues in the past with a bouncing  bow at times so I was a bit apprehensive about a stiffer bow and how it would work for me. Upon receiving the bow it was well packed as usual along with being a very nice looking bow, very well carved and finished.

After rosining up the bow I was surprised at how easy and it was to use and the sound it drew from my fiddle was very smooth and sweet, and no bouncy bow issues. I'm a skeptic on a lot of things that people say that don't seem to make sense like bows changing the sound of the Fiddle. Let me just say I had to eat crow on this one, It does make a difference in the sound and the ease of playing. If you have the opportunity to try get one of these bows I don't think you'll be dissatisfied with one. 

 

Mark

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oh da.....m... I want that bow.

 

Thanks for the good review. 

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I try not to push people to buy new bows because I feel bad for everyone and their economy. It of course helps to have a better bow and when a person gets to that point in their life there are plenty of options to test a bow before purchasing it. The proof is in the pudding as they say. 🙂
Thanks for the review Mark 🙂

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I had my teacher try out my new bow at my lesson to night and the look on his face as  priceless, he said, my that plays really well where did you get this!  

Then he grinned and said time to use it and gave me a assingment for next week. Learn all seven major scales in two octaves in first, second, third, forth, and fifth positions. And next wee you can start learning all the assoicated minor scales for them. What a guy!!!!

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