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antique violin that we cant identify
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tantanus
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May 31, 2020 - 7:08 am
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Hello this is Göktan, i am living at İstanbul Turkey.We have a very old violin.It came from my third generation grandmother.My 4/5 generation grandfather was Aleppo governor and his wife was one of egypt princess.This violin was belong to their granddoughter.Violin has no brand mark on it.Only G letter behind it and also bridge which is dresden.But we cant identify violin's brand maybe its handmade ? We really dont know.I am trying to find brand and value of this violin and dont know which way should i go ?

Pictures of Violin ;

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https://ibb.co/Gx6qbBm
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https://ibb.co/PzK7C44
https://ibb.co/6PsRGsh
https://ibb.co/Jcwvdmw
https://ibb.co/w0wJ3gc

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The bridge is on back to front (the higher side is for the bass strings), and it is in danger of collapsing - reverse it and straighten it out. Its back is the flat side and this should be perpendicular to the violin's top. It has probably collapsed before and that's why it's now on back to front.

The nut may be a little high for it to be a great violin, but I can't really tell from the photos.

The top's thickness doesn't look uniform, and that's maybe a sign it could be hand-made, at least not milled on a CNC machine.

Apart from that, I can't tell you anything.

Andrew

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May 31, 2020 - 8:12 am
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@tantanus 

I don’t know much about this sort of thing, but to me, the “G” looks looks like someone carved it in afterward. It does not look like the mark of the luthier. Looks like owner carved, maybe for identification.

From other violins I have seen pictures of that were rated as student and not worth much value-wise, this looks like one of those. The fingerboard does not look, to me, like good quality. I don’t think ebony would look like that, even after many many years of use.

AGAIN, this is just my opinion. I am not trained, I am not even a novice appraiser. Not my interest. I am just going by what I have seen and read. I could be missing something in my zooming up on the photos. Don’t do anything based on what my thoughts were when looking. 

It may still be valuable to you in a family sense. It has been in the family for a while, and that may have some non-monetary value to you, or someone else in your family. There is nothing wrong with treasuring something for that value, and could be more important than any monetary value.

Cello and Viola Time! 

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Yes, the G looks more like a previous owner's name.

That A string peg is in very far. The headstock isn't split there, is it? On second thoughts, it looks smaller than the others - maybe it came from a 3/4 violin.

Andrew

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thank you for your comments guys

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Hey, @tantanus 

 I am a '"Gal"

roflol

Those who know me here, knew this was coming! I try not to disappoint.

Cello and Viola Time! 

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tantanus
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what is the meaning of "gal" mate :=) i am sorry

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Not a guy = man, but a gal = lady. LOL 

No apology necessary. You will learn to take my comments with the humor intended. It is a job I take great joy in! banana

Cello and Viola Time! 

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"gal" = "girl", tantanus.

But there are women who use "guys" for a group of girlfriends, especially if it's a group of women that contains at least one man. In the same way that in French/German/Italian an adjective would take a masculine form if referring to a group that contains at least one male.

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Yeah, I know. I do that, too. I was being funny. 

Cello and Viola Time! 

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