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Hamberger (tm) Carbon Fiber Articulating Sound Post
Worthy of a video viewing. Not at all sure of worth of use.
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Irv
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The Hamberger (tm) sound post is an ingenuous integration of previously patented sound post designs with a "bonus" of carbon fiber construction.  The sound post shaft can be "screw jacked" in situ with a removable turn wheel.  The ends of the post conform to the violin plates with ball and socket joints.  All of the various components of the sound post are assembled within the cavity of the violin not unlike the construction of a toy boat in a bottle.  The Youtube videos of the assembly of the Hamberger (tm) sound post are very entertaining (although it took a few views for me to fix on the likely component parts of the assemblage).

I found one for sale on the German version of Amazon.  I believe that a Hamberger (tm) violin sound post was going for 260 euros.  The company also makes sound posts for the viola and cello.  No idea how much those go for.

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Its hard to beat a stick.

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January 25, 2018 - 3:28 pm
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I feel that the extra wheel and moving parts can create issues and perhaps buzzing noises. I've heard a lot about this system and am not convinced. I do want to keep an open mind though. 🙂 You never know!

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Most of the concepts of the Hamberger sound post were covered under patent 5,208,408 awarded to James G. Cave on May 4, 1993.  I purchased the materials to make an articulating end carbon fiber violin sound post (carbon fiber tubing, solid carbon fiber rod, and a carbide ball ended milling bit) inexpensively from China, since small carbon fiber components are widely used in the radio controlled air plane hobby.  The thing that stopped me was how to accurately make ball heads (item 29a and 29b shown in the patent illustration).  I finally found a source for metric bead chisels on eBay and they are now being shipped from China.

I don't think that the ball ends in the sound post should cause any buzz because the sound post is always acting in compression.  It is the bass bar side of the violin that is vibrating.  At least in theory.  I should be able to tell you empirically in a month or two.

The tricky part is going to be the retention of the balls within the hollow created in the cylinder.  I was thinking about using ball bearings and and retaining them on the shaft with "horse shoe"  type magnets, and pulling out the magnets once the sound post was in position.  The other option is to use o-rings, but I am concerned about the muting they might have on the system.

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January 26, 2018 - 4:32 pm
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Keep us posted. It's an interesting project.

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