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Am a beginner in violin and exploring different brands. Currently eyeing a violin from karl hofner, it is karl hofner 7 (as attached) and i wonder if anyone can let me know whether this will make a good violin? How much is a reasonable price to pay for one? Thanks a lot!20200310_225556.jpgImage Enlarger20200310_225619.jpgImage Enlarger

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Do you have more pictures? Looks like an inexpensive top from what I can see.

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First thing I noticed was how wide the grain is. Afaik, that's not likely to be good.

The bridge looks very chunky, but that could be the lens's short focal length exaggerating.

I Googled it. There's a thread on Hofner in the violinst.com archives. Nothing to get excited about. But the OP doesn't mention their budget.

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Welcome to the forum, and good luck on finding a violin.

 

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Fiddlerman said
Do you have more pictures? Looks like an inexpensive top from what I can see.

  

Managed to ask for a proper photo. This is how it looks like. How much should I pay for it? Thank you so much for your input.20200314_093451.jpgImage Enlarger

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Gordon Shumway said
First thing I noticed was how wide the grain is. Afaik, that's not likely to be good.

The bridge looks very chunky, but that could be the lens's short focal length exaggerating.

I Googled it. There's a thread on Hofner in the violinst.com archives. Nothing to get excited about. But the OP doesn't mention their budget.

  

I couldnt find much info on KH violins too. Just heard it's pretty fine for a beginner but still i am very new to violins i dont know anything, not even the price range urghhh.

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You haven't said if it's new or second hand. It's clearly untouched, but the Hofner website only lists models 5 and 8, not 7, so it may not have been in production since 1997.

The violinist.com people suggest 50 euros or 50 USD (what's your location?), although that's often just cynicism. But to judge from the bridge and the grain width, that price won't be far wrong. In a shop they are more likely to ask 100 Euros, I'd guess.

The nut looks high. If it is, you will have intonation problems, and it won't be worth 100 Euros to a musician. If your budget can stretch further, I'd say buy better.

Get a teacher and get their advice.

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I've played someone's Hofner violin, which I believe was made in the 1950s. Nice tone, but couldn't get much volume out of it at all.

Hofner violins seem to have been very popular in Asia in the 1950s, before the first Chinese factories opened; I played in a casual community orchestra where several elderly Asian violinists still used them. But I understand that quality went downhill starting in the 1960s, so I wouldn't expect much from one made in 1997. (As for the model not being available right now: note that between 1997 and now the company was sold at least once and moved much of its production from Germany to China.)

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 (As for the model not being available right now: note that between 1997 and now the company was sold at least once and moved much of its production from Germany to China.)  

And if cheap ukuleles are anything to go by, once that happens, the spec seems to be at the whim of the factory, and quality control is in the lap of the gods.

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I agree that if you get it for approximately $50, you'll definitely not be getting ripped off. The only concern I have is whether the set up and fittings will be useable.

Can't tell from the image how well the pegs work but the bridge looks horrible. Just a new professionally fitted bridge could cost you more than the instrument. 

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