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Mutant Violin Bow Frogs
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Fiddlerman
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Isn't that the self changing hair variation Irv?
I contacted him about selling his products but the cost was much higher than I think I can get our customers to pay for what it's worth.

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Hi Fiddlerman.  Both the tip end and the frog are from his user rehair variant.  I am looking at something similar to his tip end because it is so easily adapted on my split bamboo bow, instead of grafting a conventional tip.  

I am very interested in using a frog similar to one just obtained on eBay, which I think is from patent 3,979,992.  The hair is held in with the wedge shaped bottom slide.  No wooden plug is necessary.   Opening is initiated by placing a blunt tool in the slide “dimple.”  I think that the slide should be secured with some sort of fastener, to prevent the curious student from playing with the slide and thus releasing the hair.  I previously placed profile and bottom views of this frog on the thread.  I think it warrants another photo of the inner workings.

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Sounds good. A photo would be very welcome. :)

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I was able to obtain an interior view photo of the “patented” bow frog.  I believe that is capable of retain hair without need of a conventional maple wood plug.F2FC6237-E04E-4DBF-9457-725DD7BE4E83.jpegImage Enlarger

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While at it, I also took a shot of the tip.  Unfortunately, I did not obtain the complete assembly.  It is obvious that the tip plate was secured by two pins or screws.  I don’t know if this can be salvaged or if a new piece of wood will need to be added to the base and the tip reworked.  It seems to be a wonderful stick and, somehow, needs to be placed back in service.3CFA8D7F-A939-4C42-811E-62861C17FBC1.jpegImage Enlargeri

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Andrew Fryer said
I saw a bow with an agate frog somewhere.  

I was thinking of the codabow alabaster frog.

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No idea what that photo was about, Andrew.  How about this one.5D3C4B68-DFFC-4CCE-BE76-9768AB520222.jpegImage Enlarger

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Oh goody, more earring material. Clare at Fiddlershop and I figure there's got to be a business model in there somewhere with all these beautiful violin parts just waiting to be transformed into jewelry.

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Irv said
No idea what that photo was about, Andrew.    

You needed to right click on it then select "view image" or whatever options your OS/browser give you. I'll try to find a better way to post it.

codabow with alabaster frog

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bocaholly said
Oh goody, more earring material. Clare at Fiddlershop and I figure there's got to be a business model in there somewhere with all these beautiful violin parts just waiting to be transformed into jewelry.  

Looks like a pendant that only other violin enthusiast would recognize. Like a secret fraternity. The Loyal Order of the Fiddle.

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I like the painted frog. Very cool.
A violin shop in Sweden (Nielson's) showed me a bow screw that you could look into with a nude woman painting inside. I've never seen anything like that again but it was pretty fancy. Wish I could find one with any kind of picture inside to replicate.

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markcobb said

Looks like a pendant that only other violin enthusiast would recognize. Like a secret fraternity. The Loyal Order of the Fiddle.  

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Fiddlerman said
I like the painted frog. Very cool.
A violin shop in Sweden (Nielson's) showed me a bow screw that you could look into with a nude woman painting inside. I've never seen anything like that again but it was pretty fancy. Wish I could find one with any kind of picture inside to replicate.  

As many times as I hit myself in the face with the bow, that would definitely cause me to go blind.

I remember the spyglasses my dad brought back from somewhere over seas like that. about the size of an ink pen. Some had naked women and others would have landscapes and cityscapes. The stereoscopes, and the little movie machine that played a Disney Mickey Mouse film with ghosts. I was fascinated by them all. And as simple as that time was, I still consider it to be better than all the video trickery kids have now.

Sometimes I think we allowed the best parts of civilization to disappear under the feet of progress. 

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I have heard of metal replacement violin bow fronts, but I never saw a picture of one.  Until today.  Very cool.586325A8-FA76-4715-928A-C834BF9FC270.jpeg76A694CB-1ECA-4B04-BA4D-64AADA8561E3.jpeg

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Something for Fiddlerman. 

I am currently reading “The Bow, It’s History, Manufacture and Use” by Henry Saint—George.  I quote of length from page 83 of the second section.

”One other thing thing in connexion with Vuillaume’s bows I will mention here though it is not in the nature of an “improvement” properly so-called, albeit I have no doubt Vuillaume thought it a great embellishment.  In the nuts of some of his bows, just where the mother-o’-pearl “eye” is usually placed, he had inserted a minute and powerful lenses with a microscopic transparent portrait of himself that could be seen therein on holding the nut to the light.  It was just like the views one sometimes sees in pen holders brought as presents from popular seaside resorts.”

EDIT:  After receiving input by Fiddlerman (see below post), I found the image used on the Vuillaume bow (replacements are currently sold) and a similar frog.44DF6B17-D13F-46AD-835F-E2CB87E2094D.jpeg1A7E5947-CE66-4C41-8B7E-1B5BC747C941.jpeg

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Apparently, the vintage nudes that I saw in the bow screw lenses are Stanhope lenses.

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It would not be a Sunday night if I failed to provide another mutant.76E4DAB1-C7A8-46FC-81CD-1F946E0A1318.jpegImage Enlarger

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I copied the image that Andrew Fryer liked previously on the thread.  I bet that the same effect could be made using Corian countertop material.C6A73469-C2B9-4F17-947A-F753A7A86875.jpegImage Enlarger

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Irv said
I copied the image that Andrew Fryer liked previously on the thread.  I bet that the same effect could be made using Corian countertop material.C6A73469-C2B9-4F17-947A-F753A7A86875.jpegImage Enlarger  

Visually, maybe, but it may have tactile qualities too.

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How about this one.5D3C4B68-DFFC-4CCE-BE76-9768AB520222.jpegImage Enlarger  

Aha, "mother of toilet seat"! pie_in_the_face-2223

(goes and does a search on EBay for "Stanhope lenses") devil-violin

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Andrew Fryer said ..........(goes and does a search on EBay for "Stanhope lenses") devil-violin  

I don't feel that they have that much good information on those lenses. I looked and I was disappointed. I did, however, recognize one of the vintage nudes that I had seen in the screw.

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