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Hello Fiddlerman forum!
I am joining the ranks of folks who wanted to teach themselves the violin and decided to only invest a hundred to a hundred and fifty on the endeavor. I picked up a very nice (looking) CVN-EAV after doing the research to learn it's essentially the CVN-300 with different varnish and thus, hoping that the CVN-300 reviews could be trusted to be for this set up as well, went with it.
Upon delivery today I tuned the violin myself using an app - it was a lot simpler than I thought it would be! - by plucking the strings and carefully adjusting both the coarse and fine tuners. The instrument has a few tiny dings upon delivery and the pegs look a bit rough but they're holding their tuning for at least the past 6 hours so... I'll update on that tomorrow.
I also took my new cake of rosin and roughed it with a quarter before starting in on the bow... Since doing that I've run the bow over that rosin for over half an hour in 5-10 minute spurts, at least... It's starting to produce noise when run over the lower strings and when I press quite hard, but still sounds like no rosin at all over the e string. Am I doing something wrong? Or do I just need THAT MUCH cheap rosin on a cheap bow?
I will rough it up further tomorrow before continuing to rosin the bow then. I am concerned about the cake though - I can see its once perfect interior is beginning to crack already. Anything I can do to minimize the chance of shattering my free rosin, or do I need to add that to my order of a mute in a few weeks?
I haven't really bothered to continue trying long enough to see if dust will accumulate on the fingerboard because its been the no rosin sound on the e string.
Hello and Welcome to the insanity of strings.
I too own a Cecilio CVN-EAV I like the look and sound of mine,
I would suggest a better rosin then the Leto 803 that come with the outfit.
You might want to get a Kaplan Dark or Light rosin.
Not sure what type mute you are thinking of getting I use a hard rubber mute, but think the heavier metal ones might be a better choice.
I wish you happy playing, he violin can be addictive.
With violins there is no fretting over the music.
Goodmorning! I am very surprised And impressed by the speed at which I have received responses. Thank you!
Fiddlerman, is there any way to make any of those judgments myself? The tone seemed to vibrate quit nicely and clearly- I could ever so slightly feel it - when I was plucking to tune. It also does produce sound from G D and A strings, just not E, when bowed. All four produced nice sound and tone when plucked. Does that hint at anything? Unfortunately I have work now, but I will be able to try to troubleshoot again this evening.
Welcome Kiki to the forum. Hip Hip Hooray!!!!
I see everyone is addressing the rosin issue.. I hope you get some sound soon! And I hope it is the lesser of the issue rather than any other the other issues.
I have hard rubber mute... It works lovely. I don't use it anymore... much to the dismay of my poor Basset Hound. Sigh, about 1 ago he decided he hates the violin and if I am going to make noise .. so is he..so he full on BAWLS when I play..... Oh boy....Poor Dexter. (He is all to happy to roam outside while I play most of the time).
Good luck and happy "Violining" 🙂
Vibrato Desperato.... Desperately seeking vibrato
I just bought a CVN-EAV for my beginner daughter. The strings included are pretty bad (I switched to Preludes trying to be cheap but I'm going to switch to synthetic next) and the bow isn't great either. I'm not a fan of Cecilio rosin so I used Jade first thing. It seemed to take forever to stick and I was reapplying often. It's been about 2 weeks now and it's been played every few days and the rosin seems to have worked it's way into the hair nicely... No need to constantly reapply, just a swipe here and there.
Great news! Prepping the rosin with a sharp instrument like a box cutter - rather than the blunt one of a coin - has solved the issue! I am now happily eeking out scratchy notes that my chromatic tuner app says are the correct GDAE! Thank you very much for the assist folks.
And as an update, even though the strings are still stretching in, they were still tuned pretty close to what they needed to be when I opened it up here (so held tune for about 20 hours themselves), and stayed just as closely tuned for my one hour of fiddling around with trying to make pretty noises, instead of just noise.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to practice training the ear? I find it easiest to learn by observing someone else doing something correctly, then me trying it, assessing what I did, and then rinse repeat until I do it right. However, I'm not confident at all in my ability to assess whether I'm close or not on the same planet. Does anyone know of a tuner app that doesn't listen for just one note, but will always tell me what note I'm playing (or what note it thinks I'm close-ish to?)
Thank you again everyone, and I'll make sure to share a beginner's rendition of Twinkle Twinkle Little Star sometime in the next week! Atm I was just messing around with Hot Crossed Buns from recorder/alto saxaphone days in elementary school. xD
I will be starting over on that tomorrow. The last thing I did tonight before people returned to my house (and thus I quit sounding like I was strangling cats) was retune my violin. Thank you first chromatic tuner for not teaching ensuring that when I tuned to GDAE, I tuned to the -correct- GDAE. Found another one and got it all set right, and now it sounds much better.
Proud of myself for realizing that I must have something wrong when I couldn't get D on the G string and D open to sound the same at all.