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Recommended strings for Cecelio Electric Violin
I just received my Cecelio and don't know what type of strings to buy
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mccrackle58
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I am wondering what difference the strings would make in the sound. I'm surprised at how tinny it sounds. That might be due to my inexperience, but it is a drastically different tone from my acoustical. Could it be the strings? I've heard that many people replace the strings as soon as they purchase a Cecelio electric. Any advice for me? Thanks.

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@mccrackle58 - sure, the EV is going to sound hugely different from the acoustic for a number of reasons I'm sure you're aware of.

I have a cheap Thomann EV - and it is a lot of fun.  Now - this is just my own opinion - I have tried different strings, and yes, if just listening to the headphones via the output jack on the instrument, I can hear a difference between them.

However - I find ANY set of strings on the EV to be very "top-endy" ( your "tinny" ).  I believe this is largely due to the nature of with piezo pickup which is significantly more responsive to the higher harmonics than the "roll-off" that naturally occurs with the hollow bodied acoustics.  Although my EV (and yours I assume) comes with an inbuilt (but simple) tone control, I run the EV through an FX box, and filter fairly sharply beyond 8kHz, and at the same time, give some bass-end lift, leaving the tone control on the EV in so-called mid-position.

At the end of the day then, for me, and this particular instrument, I actually observe little difference between string sets on the EV, and at the moment, believe it or not, it is steel strung with Preludes.  The biggest difference I now detect is the "responsiveness" to playing with lower mass strings rather than the final sound via the FX box.

Just my experience - probably different for others !

*** EDIT *** - just occurred to me as I was making lunch - I experienced a low, or best said, very limited bass-end response - making the G and D in particular, sound "tinny" - this was following a full string-set change and it turned out the bridge was not properly seated over the pickup, it was slightly tilted and not sitting flat.  Realignment / reseating of the bridge solved the problem.  Maybe worth checking as well !

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@mccrackle58 and others.  You may have two (and possibly three) issues with your cecilio electric violin.  All of them are easy fixes.

1.  Cecilio strings leave a lot to be desired, but there is no need to spend a lot of money on a set of strings.  I have used the fiddlerman store brand of perlon core strings which I like very much, and currently use Chinese for-tune strings.  If you like a brighter tone, d’addario student priced steel core strings work well.  

2.  The makers of that violin are very haphazard when it comes to the type of fastener used to secure the plastic bridge mount which can lead to issues with the piezo pickup.  Loosen the strings and remove the bridge (remember orientation of bridge so you can put it back the same way).  The screws should be counter sunk into the plastic and should be level with the top surface of the plastic.  If you have round tops or other protrusions, correct the screws or simply remove them.

3.  The piezo pickup laying on top of the plastic bridge mount only produces sound along half of its length.  That half should be under the bass foot of the bridge.  With the bridge off and with the instrument’s amp on, listen through head phones as you “scratch” the length of the piezo pickup with a small screwdriver or similar.  If the active area of the pickup is on the treble side of the bridge, carefully lift from plastic holder and reverse orientation.  If this is your problem (and it likely is), the bulk of the tin issue will immediately go away.

I think that you will find how wonderful that cheap violin can be.  I have spent some time making “purse from sow’s ear” improvements on it, but the above are the biggest bang for the buck.  You might want to consider getting a better bow and rosin, since the Cecilio offerings in that department rank similarly to their strings.  Regards.

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Mack is using preludes on hers right now 

definitely good enough for what she wants.  Her Woods 5 string does have a mellower sound though... not sure what the strings are on it

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Basically, if the pickup is piezo, then any string will work.

You can Google Piezo if you want, but basically it's the name of the Italian who discovered that if you physically compress a piece of quartz, it will generate an electric current and vice versa.

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mccrackle58
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Thanks so much everyone for your help! I've learned a lot from you and will have to get brave and try the fixes. I appreciate your help!

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February 25, 2020 - 1:35 pm
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As Gordon wrote, any string set will work.

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