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Violin for beginning violinist
Looking for tips on starting to play the violin.
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Stuey75
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Hmmm, I got advice to get an electric violin because I needed to practice quietly. But then I read about mutes....now I am back to not sure which one I want to go with. 

 

Does a mute really quiet it down enough not to disturb people in the next room?

My whole reasoning for learning on an electric was to plug in the headphones and play quiet. 

 

I am way too indecisive. LOL 

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You know, a lot of concideration should go into, do you have a place out of the way, of your own to practice.  Another aspect is,,,,,, How many hour's each day do you plan on practicing ?,, If you are a school student, can you practice after you get home from school, let's say for 30 minute's / minimum or will you be going long into the night.

You should probably set a time period that everyone in your household is comfortable with. They may not enjoy it in the beginning, but that'll pass.

Just some thought's on the subject.

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Stuey75
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Reading up on mutes now. At least I have time to think and read more reviews. 

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Stuey - I have been in this predicament for about 2 months. I do play usually for 3 sessions in my typical day. If I can, at lunch, I swing home for about 30 minutes, tuning and playing only slow precise scales. After dinner I play for about a short hour, again tune and scales with songs I enjoy and can just play "mindlessly". Finally, after everyone goes to bed. Usually about 2 hours. My main study and practice.

 

I looked into mutes and I do not think my family would be happy even with the hushed tones. I tried an bow thats never been rosined, but you end up with bad finger habits as you only hear barely audible "phantom" shrilling tones.

 

The metallic mute is the best as for reviews and FM himself uses one. I was concerned about damage from the metal mute as it does hug your bridge. I think, if you are reasonably careful, that probably won't be an issue. I am looking into an electric now. I don't like the idea of spending more $$ on a second violin, but its going to come down to what my likes are, my practice requirements and what is reasonable for my families sanity. The electric might just win out in my case

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Yeah that is where I am at, I see benefits ad drawbacks to both. The draw for the electric was to have on headphones and practice whenever I felt like it. The mute I have been reading just hushes the tones rather than really muting them. I mean I guess you cant expect too much to battle the nature of music....sound. 

 

I guess I will stick with FM review of that electric one. I just want to make sure that I can practice whenever I need. Sometimes it might be to GET AWAY from the kids. LOL. 

Anything is better than what I have, which is air right now. LOL

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To answer your question about practice mutes. I think yes, the heavy steel mutes dampen your instrument enough that someone in the next room can sleep. Especially if you press it down hard enough. However they can mar your bridge a bit if you press down too hard and use it too often. I on the other hand, have a real hard bridge and can't see that one has ever been used even though I've had the same bridge for over 10 years and use the practice mute quite often.

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Is going from el to ac a hard move or is it like guitar I will get a acoustic one day but for now electric is what I'm doing

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It's not particularly hard to start playing acoustic after you've been playing electric.  Your analogy comparing it to a similar change with guitar is actually pretty close.

The basics don't change.  But the two instruments do have some differences that you'll find in fine points like how much pressure or speed to get a certain timbre/tone to the note, and how some techniques physically feel can be slightly different.  But it is close enough that it is definitely not like starting all over from scratch.  Most of what you learn on either works fine on both, with maybe some minor adjustment.

A bit of advice, though.. When you do add acoustic to your playing, try and get an acoustic where elements of setup like the curve of the bridge and the feel of the neck are similar to your electric.  It makes switching back and forth between the two easier.

My first acoustic had some differences like the neck being a little thinner than my electric (distance between back of neck and top of fingerboard) and the bridge curve being slightly different.  It all worked, but made it feel enough different that switching between the two took some conscious adjustment at first, since they just didn't feel the same.  My current acoustic is more similar to my electric in those particulars, and I don't really even think about it when switching between back and forth between acoustic and electric.  Sure, there are differences, but they are close enough.

The biggest difference is sound and feel, though, and I find some songs just work better on one than the other, and I'll get different ideas on electric and acoustic.  But that is very similar to switching back and forth between electric and acoustic guitar.  A matter of taste and of which instrument feels more appropriate to a given piece.

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