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Holiday / Christmas Fiddlerman Project 2014
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Fiddlerman
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October 31, 2014 - 2:48 pm
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All four parts were the same? That is more than unbelievable. I can easily believe that the first violin part is the same since it's really close to the way most people play and sing it but the other parts were randomly written out of my head based on the key and chords.

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No nonononno, not all 4 parts, just the main Violin 1. This IS fiddle notation. How 'kin da fid'ler play all 4 parts? I rek'n 1 on each string. roflol

 

No FM just the main part was identical except the parts I showed. Yes, that would have been miraculous if all 4 parts were.

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Makes perfect sense now. It would have been next to impossible that another arranger would have used the exact same accompaniment as I. LOL
Of course the melody is quite the same as long as we don't get too creative.

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Your score looks very doable, Pierre. How many times should we repeat it? Or will that be apparent when you do the click track?

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BillyG
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Are there any specific plans on individual's submissions?  i.e. like we had on thaxted -submit one, or a max of two parts, and if submitting V1, you must submit a second part from v2/3/4  ?

Looking forward to it !

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Ok, I'm in!

This was one of Jesse's projects from last year, and it's simple enough for everybody.

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I'm feeling brave enough to attempt this....no promises though as I'm still learning. It does however give me a short term goal!!

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A silly question - well no questions are silly - and I think I've answered it myself - but it may be of interest to others starting to read from sheet....

Sheet music - well I "largely understand" what's going on, although I still struggle to actually "play directly from it".   This, in the V4 part, bars 3, 4 and 5 initially caused me confusion - 

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       A           C#        D          C          B            D#

                                               ^^--this dude with the natural confused me

I understand accidentals, and I also thought that they applied only to the same notes, in the same bar, unless "corrected back" by a natural - so the applied natural in the following bar, made me stop for a minute..

But I get it now, the "confusing (to me) C-natural" which is outside the bar where the accidental was introduced, is probably just a "notification / caution / be-aware" we have removed the sharp - just play it as C (natural) - I suppose specifically because it is the first time we are "returning" to that note - and it's just a "warning" to take care.

EDIT: I suppose, even more specifically, it is "strictly un-necessary" and could be classed as a "notational convenience"

So, I think I answered my own question - if I've got it wrong, let me know ! LOL

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November 3, 2014 - 10:28 am
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OK, I was just showing you guys the work in progress but have come much further now. See THIS LINK for the individual parts.

Diane - We'll repeat it twice and those who wish can take it up an octave. I've included that on the new sheet music.

Robyn - I'm glad you're in, don't know who Jesse is. :(

Bill - Great question, don't let me forget to demonstrate. The C natural is a half step lower and the D# is a half step higher. Very important!!! :)

Let's continue this thread from the new link.

I'll connect it all later. :)

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Fiddlerman
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November 3, 2014 - 10:32 am
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Let's discuss tempo too now. :)

That way I can finalize a click track.

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Fiddlerman said
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Bill - Great question, don't let me forget to demonstrate. The C natural is a half step lower and the D# is a half step higher. Very important!!! :)

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LOL yup - I got it sussed - it just stopped me for a moment !

Cool - oh - tempo - I'll go to the new page

TY Pierre

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Thinking this will be my first Fiddlerman project.  I really love this tune.

 

I'm going to be playing on an electric yet I do not have an amp.  Does anyone have a good suggestion for recording this - can I plug a male-male audio cable directly to my computer as it was a microphone and record?

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@kylesito - great to have another contributor.

In general, yes you can do as you suggest.   I assume your EV has an internal pre-amp?   If so, that's all you need - a 1-to-1 M-M lead ( and maybe the odd adaptor if the EV output is (as it often is) 1/4" jack and your sound/card / PC input is 3.5mm jack - but that's easy.

If you're running a Windows environment you can use the inbuilt recorder, BUT, it may be somewhat more flexible to get hold of something like Audacity ( it's freeware ) - that way you can mix-and-match multiple recordings, mute out the ones you don't want, etc etc, you can post-add (simple) effects like reverb, echo, delay,chorus - which all helps to bring the relatively sterile sound of the EV to life.  That's exactly what I did when starting off with the EV.

Dunno about other ( Mac / Linux etc ) platforms, but no doubt there is something similar.

Go for it !

Bill

EDIT: Oh - we are talking about an audio/video presentation here of course, not an audio-only - so yes - the wiring you suggest is still gonna be OK - so you'll be recording video plus audio with whatever software you have - BUT - even with the simple inbuilt video-recording program - you should ( or hopefully can ) be able to "split" the audio out, take it in to Audacity, add reverb, whatever, and export it back into your video as either a replacement, or additional audio track - line it up and you're good to go with something "richer" than the original EV sound.  A bit "messy" but costs nothing other than your cable....  and a bit of time  ( the first time is the hardest - after that - it's a breeze ! )

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Thanks MadBill...

 

The EV and computer are both 3.5mm so that solves that.  I'll take a look at Audacity and see what it looks like.

I appreciate it.

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@kylesito - you're welcome - but - check my edited post - since we're submitting video+audio there may be a little bit more to it than I mentioned in the initial post.

Cool !

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OK,OK, you twisted my arm...count my Viola in 

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I do require video as well. :) Good point Bill.

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but the one who needs the least."

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Fiddlerman said

Robyn - I'm glad you're in, don't know who Jesse is. :(

@Fiddlerman, Jesse's username here is wookieman. :) Haven't seen him around in awhile though.

And you can count me in on this project.cool

"Music is what feelings sound like." ~ Author Unknown

 

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Feathers said

Fiddlerman said
Robyn - I'm glad you're in, don't know who Jesse is. :(

@Fiddlerman, Jesse's username here is wookieman. :) Haven't seen him around in awhile though.

And you can count me in on this project.cool

I remember now. :) Like I've always said, I have a great memory, but short. ;)

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but the one who needs the least."

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I'm hoping to do this project, but the more I practice it the worse I get..lol

With violins there is no fretting over the music.

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