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It is a Veena recital today...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related 

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Ooh...  Muthiah Bhagavatar's Khamas varnam.  But it sounds like he added some variations to the chittaswaras.  In the typical Mysore bani, though, he stuck to very foundational Khamas form, and that's also what makes his renditions classy.  It's impressive that he gets as much shape as he does out of it without pulling half as much as most modern vainikas do.

 

BTW, @Oliver --

Regarding bowed strings in ancient India, the sarangi probably does predate the violin, but because it had long been a folk music instrument that lay predominantly in Rajasthan for a very long time (mostly traveling northward towards modern-day Tibet), it wasn't an instrument that had any formal construction or rules to how they are to be played in the way the viol family have very specific dimensions and so on.

I'd say that the posture and stability of the sarangi make a few aspects of Indian classical music easier to play on it vs the violin.  Slides and oscillations and vibratos are all done with a hand that can be totally relaxed and straight.  It uses an underhanded bowing technique similar to the viola de gamba, which doesn't really change much as far as difficulty, but I find the control over bowing pressure is seemingly less precise.  There are a few things, however, that make the sarangi a little harder to play properly -- the main one being the fact that there's no concept of hard contact between the strings and the fingerboard.  The strings are stretched far away from the body, which means you have to stop them with your fingernails, cuticles, or by pinching the strings.  That makes it a lot harder to get real pitch purity and clarity of notes (especially for trills and such).  Also, because it depends on other strings for the resonance that a violin would get from its body, it doesn't project anywhere as strongly.  I characterize the sound as being like a violin being listened to from underwater.  As such, I think the violin is viewed a lot more favorably nowadays.  This is aside from the fact that in the Northern part of India -- which is pretty much the only part where the sarangi is really played -- music is not as pervasive as it is in the South.  In the North, the majority of people only know of music by way of Bollywood flicks, whereas in the South, there's a rule that a minimum of 3 households per street has a concert-ready musician in there, and almost everybody is a reasonably competent singer.

The violin, when it came into India came first through the South (generally, Baluswami Dikshitar is credited with bringing it), and only went into North Indian music around the end of the 19th century -- in fact, the man generally credited with the first ever Hindustani violin performance is Parur Sundaram Iyer, and both of his sons are still alive and performing today.  Suresh posted a video of the younger of those sons playing alongside his daughter on the first page.

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Josef Hassid ...Kreisler said of him "A Heifetz comes around every 100 years but a Hassid once every 200."

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This is a piece from our forum member "Soguns Black Violin" aka (Nguyen Thien)Minh..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....38;list=UL 

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When someone is that good it even is obvious via YouTube.   Bravo !!

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BBC has produced a series called "How Music Works" presented by Howard Goodall.  What I am presenting is another Documentary....
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I appreciate the mention of "instrumental" music which really is part of the definition of "classical".

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Francescatti :

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One of my favorites. It's fun to play as well. I think I played a part of it on Naska's K550 for the demo.
Francescatti is a technical genius, but I wish he would take more time at places and play more musically.
Don't get me wrong, he's great but there are others that will give you chills when they play this.

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It is Gidon Kremer today playing Bach's chaconne..

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Notice how little finger movement in the left hand. I love his technique. Don't always agree with his interpretation but he is fantastic.

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Fiddlerman said
Notice how little finger movement in the left hand. I love his technique. Don't always agree with his interpretation but he is fantastic.

Is it me, or does his interpretation of this song sound a little bit on the aggressive side?  His attack is a little different from past versions I've heard.  A great song, but definitely a different approach then what I am used to hearing.    

........then again, this is why I love music!  There are so many different ways a song can be played!  I'm sure if you take a song and go back 100 years, it will sound much different!  From playing styles, to the make of an instrument, to the way music halls were built, and even down to the weather, who knows how a musical piece can turn out!?  You never know, a perfect storm of variables can occur and make or break a song!   

Or even a young, Fiddlerman playing Bach's Chaconne under hot conditions in a suit jacket, in an old church! :D  

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Hi EJK! you scored over me.  After posting my chaccone clip, it crossed my mind that I should have posted Pierrie's execution of the piece.  Thank you for doing it.

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LOL, no worries!  I'm glad you posted that particular vid because it's a good comparison between two different styles of play and attack!  It just goes to show, there's always a different way of playing songs, no one way is considered "right or wrong."  Everything is open to interpretation!  

It's just a different "storm" of variables! LOL

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Someone should start a forum thread just for old videos people find of Pierre....

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Someone should not. LOL
That video was actually on my channel smile

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This afternoon Mozart's Turkish March got stuck in my head, mostly because someone or something had reminded me of the old Lemmings video game.  The tune was driving me up the walls because I couldn't remember what it was. Finally I resorted to calling our resident pianist and humming a few bars; fortunately she identified it for me.

Here's a version on YouTube that I like, as interpreted by a string quartet:

http://youtu.be/uLIFXdTkZbc

 

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Yes, it's a fun piece for sure. :-)

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WoW!! that vid of young FM was SWEET!!!!!!!!!!

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Hi EJK,Dionysia and StoneDog! It seems you have missed the comments of FM.  Here it is...

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I was asked to play one of violin maker, Jan Larsson's new violins for a TV documentary about violin making around year 1989. I was set up in a church with strong spot lights on me for video. It was almost like playing in a sauna. I played straight though the Chaconne fairly satisfied when I was asked to play it again because of technical difficulties with the camera :-(
I was soaked but agreed to do it for my friend Jan Larsson. Fingers were slipping all over the fingerboard, no one to pat the sweat off my face. Somehow I managed to play somewhat OK. Here is the Chaconne without the Swedish documentary part.

 

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