Welcome to our forum. A Message To Our New and Prospective Members . Check out our Forum Rules. Lets keep this forum an enjoyable place to visit.

A A A
Avatar
Please consider registering
guest
sp_LogInOut Log In sp_Registration Register
Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
sp_Feed Topic RSS sp_TopicIcon
Cross Tuning on the Fiddle
Origins
Topic Rating: 5 Topic Rating: 5 Topic Rating: 5 Topic Rating: 5 Topic Rating: 5 Topic Rating: 5 (20 votes) 
Avatar
ELCBK
USA
Members

Regulars
April 4, 2022 - 12:27 pm
Member Since: June 10, 2020
Forum Posts: 4713
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

...mentioned I haven't done any cross-tuning with Edgar. 

I don't want to rush into changing this string out - if the notch width is actually the culprit. 

I'm thinking the carbon composite material may not be as forgiving as a wood bridge is for the strings - it may just need a little polishing with fine emery cloth, but I'm hesitant to make any changes, without first reading up more on potential pitfalls. 

These strings are not cheap and I don't want a repeat of the problem.

Bridge string notch effect on tone - Maestronet

 

Mentioned all this, because I was thinking it's probably a good idea, for anyone cross-tuning or retuning often, to keep an eye out for any changes to synthetic core strings.  

 

🤔... what if something else could be done to help synthetic-core strings weather more cross-tuning?

Maybe another rabbit hole... but if there is an overall general problem at the bridge, caused by multiple cross-tunings/changing tunings, I was wondering if a product Saddle Rider carries could help - while using synthetic-core strings. 

They make an adjustable saddle for violins & violas. 

Saddle Rider’s adjustable saddles allow players to adjust the amount of string downforce on the bridge without releasing the tension on the strings. This is particularly convenient while traveling between climates, or when adapting an instrument to different styles of playing. If you have ever changed the height of a bridge, you have a sense of how an instrument’s playability changes by adjusting this parameter. But unlike changing bridges, using a Saddle Rider allows this adjustability without altering the playing “action” (i.e. the height of the strings off the fingerboard.)

https://saddleridermusicllc.files.wordpress.com/2020/11/violin-saddle-rider-4-resized-and-fixed.jpg?w=300

...Fiddlershop already carries some Saddle Rider products - I read about the adjustable saddle as prep for the interview with John Haines-Eitzen. 😊

- Emily 

 

Well now, I just noticed more problems with the winding on my D string.  This time it's right in the area of my bow path, so guess I just have to break in another string (sigh) - just as all the strings were staying in tune. 🙄

Avatar
Fiddlerman
Fort Lauderdale
April 6, 2022 - 10:25 am
Member Since: September 26, 2010
Forum Posts: 16040
62sp_Permalink sp_Print
0

ELCBK said

OUTSTANDING LINK!

THANX! 

Before I mess more with cross-tuning, I'm going to have to take a closer look at my carbon bridge on 'Edgar'. 

Noticed my 'D' string is showing issues with the winding separating at the nut, but much worse at the bridge! 

In all fairness to the Larson Virtuoso strings, the Virtuoso D is thicker than the Original Larson D. 

I used graphite when I changed the strings, but didn't seem to help.  I hate to make a wrong move - especially because I don't see that the nut can be replaced (part of the carbon composite fingerboard?) if I mess it up. 

It's also still fresh in my mind that I waited a long time to get this Viola... 🤔 if I'm careful, think it won't hurt to slightly widen the notch on the bridge a hair & make sure it's smooth... still stressful. 😖 

@Fiddlerman -

Any pointers, for me?

The nut can surely be changed but in a different way. We may have to cut it away and make a new one. Not as quick and easy as replacing a traditional nut but not impossible. I'm also fairly certain that we can fill it with superglue and ebony saw dust.
I realize that we'd be mixing materials which is why I say "fairly" certain. But there might be a better filler.

More than using graphite and making sure there are no sharp edges I don't know that there was anything else you can do. We could send the string back and try to get you an exchange. The worse that can happen is that they say no.

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

Forum Timezone: America/New_York
Most Users Ever Online: 696
Currently Online:
Guest(s) 59
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Members Birthdays
sp_BirthdayIcon
Today Space., loveluach
Upcoming anonkid, KindaScratchy, freesbee, paulinefiddle, Allenph, oneloudmime, MsJoy, ARCoyne, Gringo, Sandybourne, Ripton, husseinHr, Guido, A. V. Suvorov, Scrap, DennisS, JiminTexas, mcwey
Top Posters:
ELCBK: 4713
Mad_Wed: 2849
Barry: 2680
Fiddlestix: 2647
ABitRusty: 2526
Oliver: 2439
DanielB: 2379
Gordon Shumway: 2033
damfino: 2027
Kevin M.: 1973
Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 3
Members: 31076
Moderators: 0
Admins: 7
Forum Stats:
Groups: 16
Forums: 79
Topics: 9810
Posts: 123534
Newest Members:
WFSCcontest
Administrators: Fiddlerman: 16040, KindaScratchy: 1759, coolpinkone: 4180, BillyG: 3741, MrsFiddlerman: 2, Jimmie Bjorling: 0, Mouse: 4054