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Fiddlerman White Christmas Virtual Group Project
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Fiddlerman
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September 22, 2021 - 2:36 pm
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This years 2021 Christmas Project is, "White Christmas".

This is the first rough draft of the score.

White-Christmas-Project-Rough-Draft-no.1.pdf

It will change before it's completed. Also, I will supply all parts. You need not transpose any parts on your own. I do this in seconds from Finale.

The sole purpose of this draft is to get suggestions. Is this the best key signature for most of you? Is it long enough? Should we modulate?

I welcome suggestions at this stage but not so much after I'm done. 😁

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September 22, 2021 - 3:03 pm
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In looking at it, it looks doable to me. 

@Fiddlerman Kind of  a dumb question, most likely, but what do you mean, "modulate"?

Time signature is good for me. I can actually count it out.

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September 22, 2021 - 5:38 pm
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Foolish question warning:  What tempo do you anticipate?

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YES!  MODULATE!  YES! 

 

...modulate means change keys. 

...tempo maybe 80 BPM?

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Modulating depends on what keys and how often and how difficult. 😁

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BillyG
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September 23, 2021 - 12:54 am
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🙂 modulate away, and why not - we've already got a handful of accidentals in the arrangement.  If the players can do that (managing accidentals within a specific key), modulating to a different key shouldn't be too much of an issue.....

Just my 2c worth LOL !

P.S. Nice start on the arrangement boss ( @fiddlerman ) - looking forward to the finished article.

No particular suggestions from me as regards tempo (other than personally, I just feel the 80 suggested by - was it @ELCBK - let me check - yes it was - I just feel that's overly slow and some folks may run-out-of-bow on the tied whole notes facepalm LOL j/k, but then again, that's just me and my wicked sense of humour bunny-headbang

I entered the entire draft version into MuseScore and at around 110 to 120 it's reasonable (to my ear...)

Just to give others a sense of what it "feels like" at 80 and 120 - here's an exported MuseScore mp3 sample at 80 and 120 of the first few bars... but at the end of the day, it's a collective decision by everyone who cares to voice an opinion !!!

Good to be back for a while, btw - hi everyone !

**EDIT** - I forgot @fiddlerman - you requested other feedback -

"The sole purpose of this draft is to get suggestions. Is this the best key signature for most of you? Is it long enough? Should we modulate?"

Key sig - I have no preference.

Is it long enough  - hmmm - well I guess you normally "pin each submission together twice" and then a 3rd time with a fade-out while the credits scroll - a quick calculation suggests - for a single play-through at both 80 and 120 bpm it lasts as follows - 

80bpm, 35 bars = approx 1 min 45 seconds
120bpm, 35 bars = approx 1 min 9 seconds

Sure down at 80, stitched twice we have a good 3 mins+, at 120 it's down to 2 min 18s secs which - hmm - perhaps does feel on the short side..... hmm, but only "perhaps"

If you feel it is not long enough (at the tempo we all finally decide on) - well - I LIKE the 4-bar outro - it's "punchy" (making a point and a flourish at the end) and it's cool as it stands already - but possibly that could be "extended" with a few bars run-in to the outro by reusing another part of the melody.... hmmmm.... difficult to think about without trying it, certainly don't want to lose track of the flow of the original piece.   Maybe, going back to the modulate question, there's scope for a few bars "change-over" to the new key ?????

Dunno really man - dunno just thoughts - and you did ask LOL !

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@BillyG -

You're right, 80 BPM is too slow - I had listened to a score that was like 123 or 125 BPM and thought too fast - sorry, I should have checked, first! 

So, I wouldn't go slower than 96 BPM. 

I'm not great with timing, but these reference what I grew up with: 

Bing Crosby - White Christmas (1942) Original Version

Liking this - about 103 BPM here: 

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