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Fiddlerman's "Silent Night" Christmas Group Project 2013
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Mad_Wed
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Cool one! Looks like many people will be able to participate.thumbs-up

Agreed about the tempo, 60 is too slow... 75 seems to be better =)

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I have a request for Pierre. Please make a vid or sound recording of YOU playing the tune (without a bunch of extra stuff or vocals please) from the various sheet music pieces for us that are not as well versed at reading so we might be able to 'play by ear' along with you as we make our recording.

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cdennyb said
I have a request for Pierre. Please make a vid or sound recording of YOU playing the tune (without a bunch of extra stuff or vocals please) from the various sheet music pieces for us that are not as well versed at reading so we might be able to 'play by ear' along with you as we make our recording.

If the music is in MuseScore format, you can make the musescore play the piece and hear it that way.  It's not a real long piece, and if it's not in musescore, and you can enter it yourself.  It would be a good way for a non-reader to get familiar with standard notation.  You can get the program free at musescore.org.  There are also good video tutorials there on how to use it.

 

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That was a surprise for me that you would all like a quicker tempo. I'm so used to being asked for a slower tempo. LOL

I would like a few more members opinions before making the playback track.

@ Dennis, I'll try to find time to do that. I've been struggling to find some free time with all the stuff and gigs going on here right now. gingerbreadhousechristmascandlechristmaswreathsanta3

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Thanks for putting this together FM.

maybe we could up the tempo a bit unless we have a few cellists trying to keep up . Lol @ftufc

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I vote for a slightly faster tempo, too! I have trouble making a nice clear sound on long bow strokes at very slow tempos, especially on lower notes.

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I like the tempo > It seems to bring more feel to it. Each note has such emotion. With that said if it gets increase > I can go with it. > I like it as it is. > I will try and play it at any tempo. > the window for submissions is small on this so I hope the tempo will be confirmed.

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Fiddlerman
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Thanks. I guess the general concenses is that the tempo should be increased by 10-15 bpm. I'll redo the audio files soon.

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I agree with a slightly faster tempo as well. I'll get to practicing this straight away. I always look forward to the group projects.

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I've been working on an arrangement of this song in the key of D at tempo 90, so 60 or 75 both sound pretty slow to me at the moment.  LOL

I could see 60 as maybe coming out sounding very serene and majestic.  But if folks are more comfy playing it at 75, then it could be pretty majestic too. 

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Yay, I was able to do this with only a few tries.  But I've never played with a click track before so will start directly on doing that.  

 

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Have you guys been listening to various recordings and versions of Silent Night or do the feelings and ideas about tempo come strictly from playing it?

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Fiddlerman said
Have you guys been listening to various recordings and versions of Silent Night or do the feelings and ideas about tempo come strictly from playing it?

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Why do you ask?

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I think 60 is about to slow but I probably wouldn't go past 70. That is slow also but appropriate speed for Silent Night. IMHO ;-)

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I played it before listening to the tracks. It seemed to play just a tad faster naturally - my guess about 70. Strangely I don't seem to have as many problems with long bow strokes as I do short ones with string changes, but I guess every beginner is different. 

Question on the sheet music - what is the 8va? 

 

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Fiddlerman
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OK then. We'll do 76 bpm

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@NewFiddlerGirl

8va   is an octave higher

8vb   is an octave lower

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Fiddlerman
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And I've included the parts written an octave above as well. Normally a composer just writes 8va and you are to play an octave above what is noted in the sheet music. :-)
I don't expect everyone to play up an octave though. It's optional.

BTW, I've changed the tempo on the playback files now. quarter note = 76 bpm
:)
Thanks for all the tips.

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76 bpm sounds good thumbs-up

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Great. :) This will be the tempo and I'll be making a click track soon for recording. Look forward to getting your submissions in a few weeks.

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