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Just been listening through these various pieces, @AndrewH @fiddlrman @ABitRusty (oh, and others...)
I see possibilities in all !!!! I can't choose !
Great suggestions folks. Some I was aware of (without actually knowing the piece-names or composers) and others, well, they are interestingly-new to me, and I'm always up for a challenge!
Must admit, I'm kind of struck by Pierre's idea of a final video exhibiting a conductor-led virtual strings ensemble... different.
I seriously recommend not copying my mistakes. D'oh -
Please make your own, different mistakes, and help us all learn :-)








When my orchestra recorded a virtual orchestra video two months ago, we followed a conductor video instead of a click track. Our conductor followed a recording of our own performance of the same piece in 2016, which was included in the video, so we were listening to the recording on headphones and watching him conduct.
If anything involves tempo changes or rubato, I think a conductor video with a good recording of the piece would work nicely -- though if it needs to be transposed to an easier key that might complicate things.








Rubato isn't a technique. It just means flexible tempo, with the performer taking some expressive liberties instead of playing in strict tempo. In any conducted ensemble, you just follow the conductor.
Regarding not playing with a click track, we still had a recording that we were listening to -- just not the metronome clicks. As long as the piece isn't too complicated, it might be enough to listen to. The reason I mention this is that Pierre wanted to play the Barber Adagio in a more free tempo, and that makes it harder to produce a click track.
It is hard to balance two competing needs, because some people want more of a challenge than past projects, while it still needs to be possible to arrange to include beginners. I've been trying to suggest pieces that I think fit those needs.



Fun discussions. I am a new member participated in the last two projects. I also play in a community orchestra. I have enjoyed and used the lessons, loved the various levels to choose from and the click track was a big help when I recorded my video. I just had a conversation with my teacher about slow easy pieces. She suggested using the slower pieces as a challenge for long bowing, seamless changes and producing a beautiful consistent tone. I don't know about you but that can be a challenge for me. I am relearning vibrato, as I am really tight and need to calm the vibrato down. Any suggestions??
All the pieces sound interesting and I look forward to the next project. Is it possible to have one overall conductor lead video to follow, but also have click tracks for individual parts? I think Fiddlerman being the conductor is perfect.
Fiddlerman you said to remind you about the video project tag. I have done 2 videos, so need my video project tag, yeah! CID, thanks for your welcoming emails when I joined.
Cheers, Violingal



















AndrewH -I should have said youngsters!
Actually, I was quite surprised at what appeared (to me) to be maybe >30 violinists under the age of 21 (or there abouts) that participated in the Game Of Thrones project.
I know, looks can be deceiving but it still made me think to ask about them. Still curious about what young adults like to play... btw, I felt I was an adult at 16.
Fiddlerman - All the effort you put into these projects is amazing and I appreciate why you would pick Adagio.
Confident you'll give us good pointers on all the parts of this new project & no matter what, I'll be the better for participating.
At least this time I won't be trying to learn something at the last minute!
- Emily








I hope some of them are members of this forum and can answer?
But in my experience, young adults, at all levels from beginner to pro, tend to be ambitious. In community orchestras I've played in, it's mostly the younger members who push for more challenging music.
As for the real youngsters: my orchestra operates a youth orchestra program. Every year, in our last concert of the season, we play a short piece "side-by-side" with the kids, where each of the youth orchestra players sits next to one of the adult musicians. It's something the kids get excited about every year. We have two youth orchestra levels, the Juniors (upper intermediate to advanced) and the Cadets (beginner to lower intermediate). For the side-by-side, we typically select an intermediate-level piece that the Juniors should all be able to play well; the Juniors play the same music as us and the Cadets get simplified parts that are about Suzuki Book 3 level.
What we've played since we started doing the side-by-side performances:
2015 - Shostakovich, Waltz No. 2 from Jazz Suite No. 2
2016 - Brahms, Hungarian Dance No. 5
2017 - Grieg, In the Hall of the Mountain King
2018 - Elgar, Chanson de Matin
2019 - J. Strauss Sr., Radetzky March



Felix Mendelssohn and Robert Schumann wrote piano accompaniments for Bach violin pieces. Joshua Bell commissioned Julian Milone to expand the accompaniments for chamber orchestra and used three of them on the album “Joshua Bell Bach, Academy of St. Martin in the Fields” Sony Classical. The pieces are Chaconne, Air, and Gavotte en Rondeau.
The Chaconne obviously will require some serious chops for the solo. The other parts are much easier.
The other two pieces present few difficulties.
Success is the progressive realisation of a worthy ideal. —Earl Nightingale.






I am liking the Barbers adagio. If we use a conductor's video, changes in tempo would work. I have been taught any instructions that are tempo adjustments really mean "watch the conductor".
I also like Hall of the Mountain King, that could be fun.
I agree that we should all buy as much as we can from Fiddlerman this year, to allow him to take more time off taking care of us and our group projects .

