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BillyG
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July 2, 2020 - 2:10 pm
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🙂 @GregW - regarding audio interface - not using anything complicated !!!!

The truth is - I am not really using the DAW to its intended potential - what I do is to "orchestrate" ( in a standard scored format) multi-instrument arrangements of various tunes - I do that in MuseScore (well, because I can do it blind-folded - just so used to it).  And I "arrange it" with synth instruments until I "kind of get an idea" of how I would REALLY like it to sound. Finally, fromMuseScore- I'll export THAT as a MIDI file ( so any assigned instruments that "sort of sound right" just become numbers I can assign to anything, once imported to REAPER.  Yup ?  

OK.  That's my "starter for ten" as they say.  My final intent is to ( apart from synth drums ) create a strings-only arrangement of the overall piece.  The current one has 13 voices.

In REAPER,I assign a voice, and use that as a play-along, and-to get to your specific question - I record a violin/fiddle part.   The "play-along" synth sound will not be present in the final mix, its only purpose is for "play-along". 

I'll do that with the various tracks/voices.

The plan (this is my first real, SOLID, WELL PLANNED project)is then to mute all the synth "play-along" parts and then use the DAW and various software plugins (oh, and of course the actual WAY I play the individual parts - some may be simple pizzicato - but end up sounding like a fretless bass (or sort of, at least), for instance...... )

So- the short answer is - no complicated or special audio interface for what I'm ding right now -just a studio mic- either the USB one for "real" fiddle, or the Boss ME80 FX box for the EV (but, even then, it's really only acting as a preamp- I'm leaving the FX to the post-processing in REAPER - well,that's the plan )

LOLOL

Yeah - I know what I'm doing - I think - but the detail may change as I hit unexpected roadblocks/issues I hadn't yet considered....  !!!!

And oh yes - I should add - all of this does NOT remove Audacity from the equation for some of the subtle touches that can be done to audio (not present, AFAIK, in the DAW) - like getting rid of these tiny irritating, but audibly present little audio clicks on an "over-dub/punch-in" when wanting to update say one or two bars on an existing audio track, and so on....

Anyways, that's what I'm doing with it right now- but I see huge further potential !

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reaper will have something to get rid of the clicks youre talking about.  possibly experimenting with the settings on a compressor or limiter plugin. maybe called expander...

this is just one of the plugins from spitfire

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BillyG
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Interesting......  yeah - I am still exploring the various options / plugins.   

Given the signal processing (yeah, not in real-time for some of them, obviously) techniques and technology that's there - no, it wouldn't surprise me that there would would be something available.

I understand the issue - you "punch-in" an over-dub - and you can be as "in tune" and as "precisely timed" as you like - but - at that instant of the punch-in (and out) the signal is going to be out of phase ( because this is real audio, not MIDI, and so, well, more likely than not, at least) with the original which precedes and then follows the punch.  I hear it,and I've tried some click removal stuff,but it's not really a "click"- it's almost like one, single sample at the start of the punch-in (and another at the out) that gives the issue....   

Mind you - that is when listening to THAT ONE VOICE of many- and sure - lots of other ways to hide that - like sharply automate a level drop for a mSec or so and that would be inaudible in a multi-voice final mix  - so- yeah- still just exploring!!!

I'll go check that one out, Thanks a lot Greg ^5s, appreciated !

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@billyg ahh..i thought you were talking about background noise like the cooling fan running on th computer.  understand now.  hmmm...maybe just punch in 10seconds before you actually want and then edit out those extra seconds.

I did some digging and the tool in reaper to clear background noise is reaFIR..yeah..  anyway thats not what youd want in this situation.  im thinking just punch the recording in earlier and clip off the unwanted part.

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Hmmm.... got yah thinking there @GregW

But, what you say (clipping the unwanted part) is still an issue ( IMO ) - simply because the "click" I hear ( and I can hear it- and indeed fix it in Audacity by using the "Repair" function )literally occurs between the last sample before the punch-in ( which COULD be a peak) and the first sample of the punch-in (which could be anything) [ and vice-versa - basically it is a difference between two individual samples that "breaks" the "whatever digitisation we are using" - be it 16-bit or 32-bit float, so it's still an issue, and you'll hear it,even for a single sudden jump in level across two bits (sorry - two samples, I mean) ... a real pain for perfectionists  LOL ....)

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Hi,  I do love Edleweiss!  

 

This is for CID!  I am trying Humoresque with violin, flute and piano and found this beautiful cello version.  Thought you might enjoy.

Cheers,

Violingal

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@violingal, Thank you! I absolutely loved it. I always think of the Bugs Bunny and Roadrunner cartoons when I hear this. I have see  other videos by him and they wonderful. 

Viola Time! 

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cid said
@violingal, Thank you! I absolutely loved it. I always think of the Bugs Bunny and Roadrunner cartoons when I hear this. I have see  other videos by him and they wonderful. 

  

bazinga!  lol @cid I hear it too!  now this isnt as beautiful as what @violingal posted but there is a similarity there with the A part of year of jubilo (kingdom coming) below.  fiddle tune..whistled in this case.  i think this was a Tom and Jerry cartoon.

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Thank you for that, @GregW. That Humoresque is one of the lesson pieces I want to revisit and get better. I am currently revisiting Chanson Triste. I understand the shifting (when and why) much better now, so I am working on that and putting some vibrato in places. It is to,be done entirely with vtbrato, I am nowhere near able to do that, and I like it better with less vibrato.

But, Humoresque will be my next revisited piece. Right now I have some scales, octave slides and Cello Suite I(?) Prelude. We just started the Prelude. So, it will be a little while. But, this is now getting into a topic for the Learning Cello. i might continue it there.

Thank ypu @ELCB and @GregW. This was a fun piece to discuss.

Viola Time! 

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These days, when I hear the Humoresque, I think of the "Passengers Will Please Refrain" lyrics, allegedly penned by Thurman Arnold and future US Supreme Court justice William O. Douglas (according to Douglas's autobiography) on a long train trip in the early 1930s:

Passengers will please refrain
From flushing toilets while the train
Is standing in the station, we thank you.
When the train is in the station,
We encourage constipation;
When the train is moving so may you.

Oscar Brand recorded a variant in the 1950s.

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AndrewH -Girl Laughing Hard SmileyThank you - my laugh for today!

- Emily

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July 16, 2020 - 1:04 pm
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AndrewH said
These days, when I hear the Humoresque, I think of the "Passengers Will Please Refrain" lyrics, allegedly penned by Thurman Arnold and future US Supreme Court justice William O. Douglas (according to Douglas's autobiography) on a long train trip in the early 1930s:

Passengers will please refrain

From flushing toilets while the train

Is standing in the station, we thank you.

When the train is in the station,

We encourage constipation;

When the train is moving so may you.

Oscar Brand recorded a variant in the 1950s.

  

Can you give a singing demonstration??? 🤣 

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

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@AndrewH, I cannot think of a comment for that little ditty. Brain constipation?

Viola Time! 

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AndrewH, Fiddlerman, cid - so glad I looked this up after AndrewH's post (thank you, even found "Bless'm All" - my Dad's fav)!  Here ya go...

 

Trying to redirect project discussions to "Future Projects" thread  - if that's okay

- Emily

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LOL

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

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How about Mozart K.618 (attached – free music available at https://www.freegigmusic.com/ )?

I had previously copied this piece into Musescore, so I captured an mp4 from that playing & posted here:

https://drive.google.com/file/.....sp=sharing                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   

(I’m a previous IT professional—like to play with software, plus using Musescore has helped my violin learning).

And, here’s a link to a quartet performing

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"Ave Verum Corpus" was a favourite of mine from my days (and nights) as a bass in the local church choir. Always a joy to sing; playing it as part of a quartet is something I look forward to.

Thank you for suggesting it, @SharonC.

Peter

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I'm open to doing it. More ideas?

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but the one who needs the least."

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That Abe Verum Corpus PDF looks doable. I am not sure if it will be changed much to cause issues, but it does look doable. 

@Fiddlerman I am finding this group project hard to follow. There is another thread collecting ideas, also. It is very confusing, especially with neither thread being the int group project thread. I see an issue why that is happening, and will try to figure out how to send rhe info without being too wordy. But, in the meantime, having ideas being discussed two threads and neither in the group project area is really confusing. I do not know which one to follow. I will make notes while looking at the forum and let you know where I think the issue may be. 😁

Viola Time! 

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cid - I take the blame here.

I started a thread for Autumn/Halloween under "Future Projects" (Discussions pertaining to future group projects) because this thread here is subtitled under "Start Your Own Project Here".

I didn't want to start my own project, just a discussion.

 

- Emily

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