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I just wanted to post these links to 6 great video documentary/series on "Donegal", "Clare" and "Sligo" styles of traditional Irish fiddle playing.  

 

Here are 4 "Sligo Style" parts to this series.

https://www.youtube.com/channe.....go+Style 

Here are 5 parts to the Donegal Fiddler, "John Doherty - Fiddler on the Road" series and 4 parts to "South Donegal Fiddle".

https://www.youtube.com/user/m.....inmcmutrie

Here is a documentary on "The Cambells - Pure Donegal style fiddle at it's best" in Gaelic with subtitles. 

 

Here are 2 parts to "County Clare Music" - both in Gaelic with subtitles. 

 

 

Here is a short documentary on "Regional Style in Irish Traditional Music Fact or Fiction".

 

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that last one is funny!  .yup everyone plays it the same.  

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He brings up good points..some weve talked about.  internet and such...but then turns right around in the last bit and says they do exists.  which is it?   haha.. So I think that theres something to different aareas having a "style" or way of playing something.  youll have a teacher in one part of the country that teaches tunes different than in another part.  probably less now.  makes good topics at the least.

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I think it would be hard to give up on the traditions of your heritage completely where there is "Cultural Marketing", I mean if I go to Nashville... what do I expect to hear?  I knew what kind of music I wanted to hear in "The French Quarter" of New Orleans - so it's not a stretch to expect that in Ireland.

Let's face it though, if there are many more people (like me) who value the World-shrinking internet to enjoy all styles of music, maybe eventually there won't be regional style - just individual.

 

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Yeah..I think the cultural marketing is something thats a little of base.   i cauggt that in his video.  i dont think there are similarities between nashville marketing country music and seeing how a region or group my develop a style.  totally different to me.  

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GregW -

Don't leave me hanging, please explain!  Because Nashville is more of a hub?  ...or why?

 

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Wow, this is the kind of music I would like to play if I played the violin!

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Ilona - Please don't let that stop you! 

Here's "Irish" Cello!

https://www.youtube.com/c/ilse...../playlists

Here's "Scottish" Cello!  Too bad his dog is distracting.

 

Have Fun!  Just Being Contented Smiley- Emily

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ELCB said
GregW -

Don't leave me hanging, please explain!  Because Nashville is more of a hub?  ...or why?

 

The Smiley Puppet Smiley- Emily

  

eh.this is starting to seem more dogma now than just sharing historical stuff but what I was getting at is all the Nashville stuff seems more of an industry.  I dont think looking back at how certain players or areas have evolved their style is trying to promote record sales.  I think its just those groups trying to maintain a link to where the music is from.  Take people like Alan Jabbour and the others that went out and researched tunes from old fiddlers.  If they didnt its possible alot of the tunes that are popular now couldve been lost/forgotten.   If there isnt a little grounding in how tunes are played traditionally, then over time they become something else.  You can see that in how moutain music changed to some degree old tunes that were brought over.  Imagine if in the classical world that everytime a conductor held a concert changed the score for his/her artistic expression over the years what would be now.   idk..maybe that happens did happen.  I guess taste change. all this General observations thats not saying fiddlers shouldnt play it how they feel..especially when by themselves.  wheew  gettin too deep now.  just have fun.

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GregW - Yes I Say Emoticons I listened to all of Darol Angers "Grigsby's Hornpipe".  I listened to a few others playing it, too. 

I like Hornpipes (in gen) & had a hard time trying to fig out why I didn't like this one.  I think it's because I feel like I'm hearing 3 notes (close in pitch) over and over - just slight variation.  Doesn't seem like a Hornpipe.  I don't think it was because of the droning - I really like "Chanters Song" (I like to play it) and that's pretty much a droning tune (or could be). 

I like to play "Sailor's Hornpipe" and here's a tutorial for one I think I'll learn, "Walsh's Hornpipe" - see what you think.

 

I guess I've enjoyed bouncing around on the strings too much lately - recently learned "King George IV" strathsbey.  This is so much fun!

I Love Music Smiley - Emily

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@ELCB said...I think it's because I feel like I'm hearing 3 notes (close in pitch) over and over - just slight variation.  Doesn't seem like a Hornpipe. 

fair enough then laugh..  maybe hornpipe in name only... I just liked his version..especially over the others Ive heard.  Not that I DONT like others.. I just prefer what he did with it.  I think youre right about the melody..its more rhythmic than melodic to me.

hadnt heard Walsh's so thanks for sharing that.  and Kuddos on learning King Georges! Thats on the list but a way off..  Ive gotten frustrated everytime I started on it and said maybe tommorow...drooling

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I had not heard Walsh's hornpipe before either .... that's a cool one!  will have to go on my ever expanding tunes to learn list 

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@stringy your recent post playing a slow aire made me remember this one and I thought you might like to add to your list if its new to you.  Id like to get this one and your share down one day but for now a listen is good. 

funny how music works..i heard a version of this on the film Millers Crossing several years before I got into trying to learn anything instrument.   after I got into trying to learn Irish fiddle stuff I happened upon this recording and instantly I said to meself...SELF..thats that tune from that film.. 🙂  anyway thought Id share.  

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Excellent  that greg, hadnt seen it be because ofthe lay out of  the site, started to learn it right away, haveyou heard this one, you probBly have but here is a good version

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ELCB said
GregW - Yes I Say Emoticons I listened to all of Darol Angers "Grigsby's Hornpipe".  I listened to a few others playing it, too. 

I like Hornpipes (in gen) & had a hard time trying to fig out why I didn't like this one.  I think it's because I feel like I'm hearing 3 notes (close in pitch) over and over - just slight variation.  Doesn't seem like a Hornpipe.  I don't think it was because of the droning - I really like "Chanters Song" (I like to play it) and that's pretty much a droning tune (or could be). 

I like to play "Sailor's Hornpipe" and here's a tutorial for one I think I'll learn, "Walsh's Hornpipe" - see what you think.

 

I guess I've enjoyed bouncing around on the strings too much lately - recently learned "King George IV" strathsbey.  This is so much fun!

I Love Music Smiley - Emily

  

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Excellent  that greg, hadnt seen it be because ofthe lay out of  the site, started to learn it right away, haveyou heard this one, you probBly have but here is a good version

  

This is a great version!  I like how she places the ornaments.  Great find..thank you.

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@stringy -

Thank you for bringing this to light - nice tune!

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/02/4d/88/024d88f9c74fca0e2ee581af98c9e5c0.gif

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Glad you like it, it was written by o carolan the blind harper, you may know that already though. He wasnt much of a performer himself,  but was an excellent composer. 

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@stringy -

Turlough O'Carolan is one of my reasons I wanted to learn the fiddle/violin. 
I like the playfulness I hear in his compositions.

I heard "O'Carolan's Welcome" (originally unnamed no. 171) - made sure it was one of the 1st tunes I learned! 

A little later, I challenged/tortured (lol) myself by learning "Planxty Burke/Planxty Drew" together.  Don't think I'll ever feel like playing it up to speed, though - sounds too good a little slower. 

I really love that the whole feeling of a tune can change, just with a little emphasis.  Here's one of my favorite versions of "Sí bheag, sí mhór", to compare. 

https://i.etsystatic.com/9952481/r/il/fda6b4/1641348982/il_570xN.1641348982_pm52.jpg

 

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like that @ELCB.  I dont believe Ive heard it played on pipes with a band?  wrong term im sure..lol sounded great though.  Ive tended to like the O' Carolan tunes on fingerstyle guitar more but havent really searched after any versions on violin since I picked it up.  Glen Weiser put out a fingerstyle guitar book that i picked up way back.  It was too much for me to tackle but had a cd with each tune in the book on it that was a good listen.  Blind Mary was a favorite from the O' Carolan section.

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