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Scratch & Squeak ๐Ÿ˜– How NOT To, or How To?
Frustrating... or EXCITING?
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Oh, the woes and frustrations (yes, there are a few ๐Ÿ™„) of learning how to play our instruments.ย 

Thought I'd share this really GREAT video (FiddleJaminstitute), especially good for frustrated beginners.ย 

Now, the cool thing about this video - it also gives you a glimpse of how to later USE some of these sounds for special effects! ย 

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Once you know how these sounds are produced, you can use some to your benefit!ย 

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THIS one's VERY COOL - more good stuff!ย  "Electric guitar effects on acoustic violin" (Raphaรซl Maillet violoniste)!

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Check out "Orange Blossom Special" & "Chops" bowing effects, plus much more, here:ย 

The World of Bowing Possibilities Thread

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I still have moments of pressing too hard, while I'm playing too slow - while off in 'la la land', because I forgot what I was supposed to doing at the moment. ๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿคฏย 

It's usually not an issue when I learn a tune better... but going to try to stay aware of this to avoid doing it - so maybe I can at least fake that I know what I'm doing when my mind takes a wander. (lol)ย 

- Emily

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Well, the 1st video gave me a clue about what I may be doing wrong!
Can't WAIT to get back to an in-person lesson.

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Thanks!
-Jim

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While I still get the occasional squeak and scratch, one thing that has helped me is to realize my bow MUST be in place before I make any moves.ย 

Bow placement always before bow stroke. Before, I was stroking or pulling the bow slightly before it was properly placed.

Proper bow placement is critical or you will get squeaks. Bow must be solidly in the right place.

Some of us seem to want to lift our right shoulder when playing the lower strings. I am told we should only be adjusting our arm.

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A few more reasons TO SCRATCH & SQUEAK!ย 

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Want to know how to do some?ย 

Daniel Blair tutorial for 5 of them!ย 

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Oops, forgot to add this post on Tango bowing techniques from the Violin in Argentina Thread - some very cool sound effects!ย 

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VERY COOL TANGO VIOLIN TECHNIQUES - also for Viola & Cello!ย 

Each of these videos has a little different info.

Tango techniques tutorial with Susie Bishop.ย  Techniques include: Marcato en 4 & Marcato en 2 (both seem like 'chops'), Sรญncopa, Combining Accents & Staccato, Arrastre (drag), Lรกtigo (whip), Chicharra (crickets).ย 

She also talks about phrasing techniques - Fraseo, a sort of unwritten rubato, Arrabatado, where rhythms are rushed, but the time never made up, Open & Closed phrasing.

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Tango Music Effects 1 with Caroline Pearsall.ย 

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"Tango Effects" - Caroline Pearsall's series of 7 short video tutorials for Stradmagazine.ย  Cepillo, Sirena, Tambor, Lรกtigo, Chicharra, Banjo Pizz, Golpe de Caja.ย 

Caroline Pearsall's 7 Tango Effects - Stradmagazine Video Playlist

Jeremy Cohen has 5 short Tango technique tutorial videos - TRIPLET PIZZICATO, STRAPATTA, LรTIGO, CHICHARRA, ARTICULATING at the FROG.

Jeremy Cohen on Tango Techniques - Video Playlist

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Here's the 'Chops' post from the The World of Bowing Possibilities Thread - a super useful percussive bowing effect to master!ย 

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Thought I should get to a couple more 'fiddler' bowing techniques, that I need to work on more & don't think these have been mentioned earlier in this thread.ย 

I believe that even if you are a classical Violinist/Violist or Cellist - you should still have these techniques in your toolbox to use.ย 

Here's a simple explanation for 'Chop' execution, "Bowing Tips: Master the Chop" - Laurel Thomson tutorial (Strings Magazine).ย 

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Now, for a deeper look into 'Chops'!ย 

There are MANY great videos about 'Chopping' available to watch, but start here.ย 

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@Fiddlerman -

Maybe stick to the Violin kind of 'chopping' - you're great at it! ย 

...it's also MUCH safer! ๐Ÿคญย 

- Emily

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Here's the tutorial of the Train bowing effect for the "Orange Blossom Special", from the The World of Bowing Possibilities Threadย - just more fun to explore on fiddle, viola & cello!ย 

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There's one bowing effect, most people try avoid like the plague (especially beginners), that is GREAT when used in "Orange Blossom Special"!ย 

It's done by brushing, back & forth, along the length of the strings with the bow - for the 'chugga, chugga' train sound.ย  Lora Staples (Red Desert Violin) demonstrates.ย 

Video started at 3:28 minutes into this tutorial:ย 

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ELCBK said
Here's the 'Chops' post from the The World of Bowing Possibilities Thread - a super useful percussive bowing effect to master!ย 

@Fiddlerman -

Maybe stick to the Violin kind of 'chopping' - you're great at it! ย 

...it's also MUCH safer! ๐Ÿคญย 

- Emily

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Took me a while to figure out what you were talking about. LOL

I forgot about that.

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

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Another cool Percussive Violin Bowing Technique: The Guiro/Chop

from Earl Maneein (Vitamin String Quartet).ย 

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oh you got your looper pedal today didnt you!!??ย ย 

good video!ย ย 

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Yep!ย 

Going to be busy seeing how much 'Scratching & Squeaking' I can do. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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