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I have recently picked up a student model viola and have been alternating my playing between this viola and my violin. I am finding that doing this has been beneficial to me from an ear training and technique standpoint. I am surprised at the quality of this viola, which I bought for $40 on Marketplace. I experienced a similar effect when I play my guitars- if I alternate playing on my different instruments, I improve across the board on all of them. Can anyone help explain this phenomenon? Is it something similar to cross-training for physical sports activities?
At conservatory level, many violin professors require all their students to learn the viola if they do not already play it. I think there are two benefits for violinists:
1) Getting used to a different finger spacing means being forced to listen for intonation rather than rely too much on muscle memory.
2) The viola is less forgiving with errors in coordination between the hands, because the strings don't respond as quickly to the bow. In addition, it needs more attention to tone quality in general. All this makes it extra important to pay attention to the bow hand.
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Our complex system of perception & how our brain manages to turn all that information into equally complex actions is something to cherish.
I'm no expert, but sounds like your ear training is paying off. All string instruments have similarities and you have been training yourself to find notes - this is reinforced. I look at the differences in the instruments as new (refreshing) brain games of "find the note/notes". By switching back and forth I think you sharpen your senses. Just keeps getting better... be aware of what you do & how.
If you look close I think you'll see similarities in cross-training for sports, too.
Just make sure you protect your hearing.
I'm sorry if I sound condescending - I don't pretend to know your age.
I'm sure you'll hear from many of the great multi-instrument players here on the forum.
@JohnBAngel and others. Are you playing a viola of a similar size to the violin (14” corpus) or a more substantial brethren?
It is almost too bad that the viola makes use of different scale notation. Always another thing to learn.
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Thanks for your thoughts Fiddlerman.
I get the added benefit of moving down into the alto clef, which should help me with my reading ability.
I am practicing the same tunes on both instruments, so I am getting the advantage of being able to play violin scales on the viola, albeit in different positions.
Then the benefits go back to taking these other positions on the viola and moving back into the violin ranges.
Can't begin to tell y'all how much I appreciate your expertise.
Yesterday was interesting.
A copy of Hindemith's Meditation for viola and piano arrived (a dollar+shipping!).
So I was playing, on the violin, the alto clef for the first time ever, sight-reading and simultaneously transposing up a fifth in order to play the same string number I'd be playing on a viola.
After about 15 minutes of that my brain felt like mashed potato, and I decided to "put it on the back burner" and maybe wait until I buy a viola! Or maybe that was just defeatist. Maybe I was just about to break through the wall!
I could keep at it.
I could find where I put my manuscript books and write it out, transposed, in the treble clef a line at a time.
For me the hardest thing about the alto clef is where those semitones are.
When you are used to the treble clef and that middle line is B and the next space above is a C. The way that semitone becomes a tone (C to D) is the hardest thing for me.
I wonder if I pretend it's the treble clef and transpose up an augmented fifth that will be the easiest solution! Nope, that won't work at all - some notes will need to be transposed up a 6th. (e.g. the D, looks like a treble C, but needs to go up to A)
Two-set have got it all wrong - violists are evil geniuses. This could be a conspiracy that makes the X-Files look like Sesame Street!
Gordon Shumway - Wow!
You have a lot of intestinal fortitude to attempt all that in your head - bravo!
Just today mentioned in another thread that if I'd bought a viola instead of a 5-string violin I'd just play violin parts... but lower.
Most of the music I play isn't as complicated/long as what you play, so easy for me to play around in alternate Keys. I would definitely have to transpose a piece like Hindemith's to play it differently.
Now that I'm waiting for my new Glasser 5-string Viola, I'm looking back on this thread - having played my 5-string Violin for a longer period.
- I can say I still read Alto Clef slower than Treble Clef.
- I still think of the 'C' string as Violin.
- I still appreciate that lower strings are beautiful, but take more work to get them to respond in the best way.
- and likewise, it's like completely switching gears to play the 'E' and 'A' strings delicately.
- Having now played in a couple different positions and tunings, I'm hopelessly addicted to the versatility of 5 strings.
- I still recommend a 5 string to all creative Violinists & Violists!
I'm really looking forward to exploring the differences between the Viola and Violin bodies and finger spacing, but believe I may be better prepared than most who jump from one instrument to the other.
...different models have different string spacing - there's a 5-string available for all sizes of hands/fingers to enjoy!