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Fiddlerman's House Of The Rising Sun Project
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keith said
Ahem, I think that I speak for the violin challenged when I say, HELP!!!! Those sixteenth notes are killing me. It's not that I can't read or count music, I can but, seeing the technique of playing sixteenth notes and also the thirtysecond notes you slipped in would be helpful.

 You don't have to play anything you can't play.  You can just sit those measures out.

Also, try the second third and fourth violin parts, they are much easier.

A good way to learn the fast notes is just to play them like they were slow.  Make the sixteenths into quarters or whole notes and play them that way until you can pick the speed up.  This is really the typical way you learn to play any difficult piece.

Eventually, your skills pick up and you don't have to start so slow to learn fast passages.

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keith said
Ahem, I think that I speak for the violin challenged when I say, HELP!!!! Those sixteenth notes are killing me. It's not that I can't read or count music, I can but, seeing the technique of playing sixteenth notes and also the thirtysecond notes you slipped in would be helpful.

 You don't have to play anything you can't play.  You can just sit those measures out.

Also, try the second third and fourth violin parts, they are much easier.

A good way to learn the fast notes is just to play them like they were slow.  Make the sixteenths into quarters or whole notes and play them that way until you can pick the speed up.  This is really the typical way you learn to play any difficult piece.

Eventually, your skills pick up and you don't have to start so slow to learn fast passages.

PopFiddle said

keith said
Ahem, I think that I speak for the violin challenged when I say, HELP!!!! Those sixteenth notes are killing me. It's not that I can't read or count music, I can but, seeing the technique of playing sixteenth notes and also the thirtysecond notes you slipped in would be helpful.

 You don't have to play anything you can't play.  You can just sit those measures out.

Also, try the second third and fourth violin parts, they are much easier.

A good way to learn the fast notes is just to play them like they were slow.  Make the sixteenths into quarters or whole notes and play them that way until you can pick the speed up.  This is really the typical way you learn to play any difficult piece.

Eventually, your skills pick up and you don't have to start so slow to learn fast passages.

I know and thank you for your support. I'm just over eager to jump in there after a 45 year spell of not playing. I was going to be in the Canon project until an accident at work left me with tinnitus,hearing loss, and nerve damage in my hands but, I have almost recovered from it and ready to play again.

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I spent a little more time with page two on Violin 1 part for House.    I am seeing some hope!  (far from up to speed, or memorizing yet).   

How is everyone  else doing?   Eager to hear all the "House" Stuff.  

I cheated on one of my Days and played it with the Electric.. awh.. sweet stuff.   :)

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Hi, Coolpinkone!  Les and I are coming along in the "House" project.  It is so good for me to work on this.  Among the usual challenges, I am using it as a position exercise instead of staying in first position the whole time.  Les had some issues counting the rhythms (tied triplets, specifically), but he's working it out.

One of these days I will get an electric violin, too.  I have so much work and learning to do on my acoustic, though, so I will hold off on the expense for now!

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Leanna:

Very cool that you are working the project as a positions lesson as well. 

I am working it as a "hope I can nail those 16ths"    I am starting to recognize the sound and the pattern and it is starting to sound like the tools I have.   

I love my EV... and "House" sounds good on it.  But I mostly still play my accoustic 80% of the time.  The EV is new and yes, I do cheat sometimes because it is so dog gone fun!

Keep up the good work.    I am wondering if we got a project ticker for this... or if it would make us nervous.   :)

Cheers. 

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VLA 3 looking good, but do I repeat the Pizz or only once?

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Hi again, Coolpinkone.  I don't really know how this forum works.  Do we get badges and such?  I see some graphics next to your name but don't know why! :-)

I kind of have trouble with the 16ths in the first violin part, too.  I can play them, but my problem was getting into them in the right rhythm.  There are 3 bars of rests and the play along track is banging away in triplets.  Then we have to come back in on measure 34 playing 16ths.  So, I need to get my brain to stop thinking in three per beat and switch to 4 per beat.  I think I've got it better now, but it took concentration.

The EV seems so fun!  But my teacher keeps telling me to learn intonation by listening to the resonances and sympathetic vibrations of my acoustic.  I guess I wouldn't get that on a solid body electric.  That's one more reason I tell myself to hold off on getting an electric for now.  One day I'll be able to justify the cost to myself!

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You guys know me too well. LOL
Of course I don't mind. The cello will be nice.
Les B, I hope you can consider doing the 4th part as well.
I'll post it here in a bit.
Welcome to the forum Les B and Leanna, Very happy to have you here.

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"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

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Leanna said
Hi again, Coolpinkone.  I don't really know how this forum works.  Do we get badges and such?  I see some graphics next to your name but don't know why! :-)

I can answer your question Leanna...

The graphic circles or "badges" are acquired by completing certain activities on here. 

e.g. The "VIDEO" badge is obtained by posting a video of yourself playing for our entertainment AND for critique feedback video's you get the "CRITIQUE" badge.

If you perform on streetjelly.com or other live video playing source you would get the "LIVE" badge.

The others are pretty much self explanatory so you get the picture. It is based on the honor system and just contact fiddlerman and let him know what you did and which badge you think is for that activity. The group projects like the latest one, House of The Rising Sun, will get you the "GROUP PROJECT" badge which is pretty cool and a lot of fun! 

Hope this answers your question(s) in regard to the badge thing. Welcome to the 'family'... enjoy your time here. hats_off

"If you practice with your hands you must practice all day. Practice with your mind and you can accomplish the same amount in minutes." Nathan Milstein

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Looking forward to seeing this completed, have fun with it everyone!

I'll be following from the sidelines for now, hopefully next time I'll be able to jump in and have a go.

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Hi guys ... another long absence due to ... oh you don't want to know.

And what do I find?  Another group project!  WOW!  And a tune that I love to play on the cello (though my version is a lot simpler).

I'm wondering if I'll get time to join this project, but I would dearly love to.

I will try to tackle some of it tomorrow, but because I'm going away again next week, it might not be my time to join in.

Fingers crossed!crossedfingers

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Wow, it is nice to be welcomed by you, Fiddlerman!  I've been reading and watching you for years.  I am a big fan and you've been a help and an inspiration. Thanks for what you do putting violin knowledge and help out there.  It is wonderful to finally "meet" you! 

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Hi,  cdennyb!  Thanks for the welcome and the explanation of the badges.  Well, there is so much to try out and explore.  I guess I'll get my first badge after this group project.   I am looking forward to it.  I think I'll feel like I did getting a gold star for something in grade school!  

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@Robyn.fnq Yes...  yes.. there is time... Happy Happy to see you.

YaHOOOOOO!!!!!

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I will probably extend the deadline on this one. I for one have not found a single moment to make videos. I did however, upload the sheet music to my dropbox and uploaded a rhythm to my iPhone. One step in the right direction. LOL
Leanna, I'm really happy you joined us and I'm glad you'll be involved in our project. :)

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This is probably a stupid question, but how do you do pizzicato double stops? o.o

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How is everyone doing with House?    I am working through... Nervous but not daunted.   Working slowly through measures 34-38 ... On violin one.   

Looking forward to everyone's chatter and feedback.    How is it going???

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I'm struggling with the 2nd page (The measures you are refering to) and I wish Fiddlerman would get along with posting the videos of the playing of each version V1, V2, V3, etc. minus all the vibrato and embelishments so we can concentrate on just the notes. dazed

I have the first page down "pat" as they say. In the end, I know I will overcome this mental block of those 1/16 note runs... but I'm also working on some other music that is taking a lot of my concentration (John Legends tune). serenade

I think I'll make the deadline... especially if it gets extended a couple of times! LoL b-slapdancing

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I've got the melody down pat...the rest of it not so much. :-)

Let the bow flow.

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