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Using the same finger for two notes in a row
5C followed by 4F#
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In a simplified Eine Kleine Nachtmusic, I have to play 4F# on the D string immediately after 5C on the A string.  Both would normally be played with the 2nd finger.  Do I just have to be fast with that finger, or would anybody playing this sequence ever use a different finger for either of these?

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Gotta develop your "hoppy two." IOW, yes, use the same finger, hopping it from one string to the other. There will be some situations where you can hold down both strings with the same finger and bow from string to string, but where's the showmanship in that? 1st-place

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Scan the spot in question and post it here. Sounds to me as though you could use your 2nd finger on the C natural and 3rd finger on the F# but I need to see the music to better advise you. Depends on the rest of the music in those bars as well. Remember if you do this to keep them real tight.

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FiddlerMan is right. Though i'd use 2nd finger for both notes (it is resonable in most of cases, but not in ALL of them). =)

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@FM: sorry to be slow.  I didn't see your post until now.  I don't think the "new post" icon showed up when I went to my profile and listed all threads that I had posted to.  Anyway here is the part having the C followed by F#:

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The third measure is an example of where you might use a 3rd finger for the last F#. However, the upcoming A would give you a good reason to play with your 2nd finger as well. The stretch is a little much between the 3rd finger F# and the 4th finger A natural.

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Okay, thanks---I'll try using 3rd finger for the F#.  But it will probably feel sinful until I get used to it ...

 

"4th finger A natural"

Something wrong there ...

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I would siuspect both notes 2nd finger through open Adunno

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RosinedUp said
Okay, thanks---I'll try using 3rd finger for the F#.  But it will probably feel sinful until I get used to it ...

 

"4th finger A natural"

Something wrong there ...

Oh, I see, FM, you mean if I play the A on the D string.  I don't know whether it is good, but I always play an open string when I can, so I would play that on the A string.  I guess it isn't good, since it seems other people often don't do it that way.

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RosinedUp said
@FM: sorry to be slow.  I didn't see your post until now.  I don't think the "new post" icon showed up when I went to my profile and listed all threads that I had posted to.  Anyway here is the part having the C followed by F#:

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How about this fingering, if it's a simplified version : (note for note)

                3    3     1 0 3  ||  3 2 2     0 1 2   || 0 3 3     1 0  3 || 3 2 2    0 1 2  ||  

 

The only finger that changes position is the 1st, and only by a semitone.

What say you, Fiddlerman?

 

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That would work too. Either way would be great. Maybe I'd do the 4th finger on the first 3rd bar A though.

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Question from a 'play by ear' guy.

Would you also try to make a direction change in the bowing when making that change to cover the transition time between spotting the notes?dunno

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In some cases but not this one. This is done quite simply and no one can hear it if done properly. thumbs-up

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