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Here's an article from years ago about the physics and vibrational relationships of strings and bridges. If you're just kickin back and relaxin on a Sunday afternoon, it makes for some great reading.Well, its 11pm this side of the pond, but I'll certainly crack open the link for a while and take a peak before I hit the sack, which should have been an hour ago, with it being a school day tomorrow an' all!Thanks for all your help tonight, it's been greatly appreciated.Same to you Oliver.Final thought provoker for the night:Did Stradivarius measure in millimetres?
I am amazed at how old people of my age are.....
Context ...... modifying bridge for making double stops easier.
Increasing the string separation at the bridge has almost no effect for playing in first position. Some people have tinkered with moving grooves apart at the nut (by peg box) with limited success.
REGARDLESS of string separation, any double stop requires sounding two strings in a straight line. Period. Bridge curvature doesn't change that.
I know what is published for Curtin and others and try to stick to conventional guidelines to the extent of my carving skills and tools. I have not really found a bridge much better than the pre-cut Aubert self adjusting. (if the height is right)
I've been told by some veterans that learning to play double stops is very difficult and may take 6 mos. to a year to achieve confidence.
The FM forum reports more cracked, broken, bridges than I've encountered in 6 years on the internet. I wonder why?
When you come to a fork in the road, take it.
Thanks everyone for all the valuable information. This is all fantastic information and I would like to add Kevin's fantastic guide to cutting a bridge as well. A lot of the stuff discussed on this thread is also demonstrated here too.
What a great set of instructions, thanks Kevin. Time to go
practice on a few..........
I am amazed at how old people of my age are.....
This is a great thread, and should be "stickied" or archived somewhere easy for a beginner to find.
I hope that not too many beginners find themselves in the same boat I did, getting their brand new violin and then figuring out the bridge was uncut and way too high. But sadly, it is probably all too often the case, especially with the bargain priced instrument "beginner package" deals.
I've played guitar enough that I could tell the action was ridiculous when I first set my bridge and tuned up. I am talking about it feeling like something to cut hard boiled eggs or cheese with rather than a musical instrument. LOL
I've trimmed and adjusted enough guitar bridges over the years to not be afraid of taking a sandpaper block to the situation, and after an hour or so of hunting the internet, I found some explanation of how to trim the bridge. I think it may have even been the exact bit that cdennyb quoted with the talk about a pencil, in fact.
It is nice to see that it wasn't bad advice. I can tell that my bridge isn't *too* far off now, since the instrument is playable and all the moves I've tried work. The action is comfortable. Maybe in a few months I'll get some other bridges to try working on and see if I can get it more "perfect" after I've played long enough to actually understand what more perfect might be.
But the usual advice one gets is "Take it to a luthier!".
Reality check, people.. My local yellow pages do not even list a luthier in the area. Not every town has any luthiers. Even if they did, the usual reason one buys an inexpensive instrument is because one is low on budget, and this makes running out to a shop less likely as an option. There is a total of two music stores in my town. The one I usually go to has some things for violin, but doesn't do much with the violins. The other one does violins for at least school kids, but also happens to be the same place that a few years back strung my brand new 12 string fender guitar I bought from them with medium strings and told me to just leave it in standard tuning. Two months later, the bridge pulled up and the top was warped, but by then it was out of warranty period of course. I fixed it myself and restrung the 12 string with extra light gauge silk and steels and it is a lovely instrument again, but hopefully I don't need to explain why I wouldn't let them work on any instruments of mine, ever? LOL
Back when I first got my new violin, I hadn't found this site yet. Wish I had, since it would have saved me some hours of hunting the Internet. But for basic setup stuff like this, it would be really nice if there was a section here where it was organized so it doesn't get buried. The "search" function here is no worse than most other forums, but that isn't saying much.
The article by Kevin Healy also looks excellent and I wouldn't balk a minute at buying a ruler and gluing dowels to it to make a setup tool. But even though I have been coming to this site for about a month now, I wouldn't have known it was on the site somewhere if I hadn't found this thread. I still don't know where it is on the site from the front page. Making this sort of info easier to find could be a good idea. The site is great, page one has lots of great lessons and interesting articles and the learning tools section.. it is really good. The best I have seen so far. But it could be a little better if info like this was a little easier for a new visitor to find.
"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman