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Thank you Gibbles! I am doing cello, but hearing this has really helped me out. I encourage all parts to watch this. 

Thank you @Fiddlerman for posting this. I have been trying to learn the fingering and this will help immensely, even though I will be doing cello. 

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@Fiddlerman -

Gibbles says the Click Tracks are available. 

Sorry, I've been keeping an eye out... I still don't see any Click Track Links.

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@ELCBK  I think Gibbles was just doing "future-speak" i.e., when the click tracks are available, his statement in the video will then be applicable.laugh

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oh, I only see now that the scores are available!

it's awesome, thank you very much, I'll start working on them. 🥳

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REPOSTING 2023 GROUP PROJECT INFO LINK

TO MOVE IT FORWARD

 

https://fiddlerman.com/2023/08.....christmas/

 

Sheet music
Submitting instructions
Eventual click tracks
Previous group projects
Lesson Videos
Violin 1 Group Project 2023
Violin 2 Group Project 2023
Viola Group Project 2023

The Bumblebee Flies!

Please ignore any typos. My typing ability on a real typewriter did not transfer to these device key pads.

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I am awfully sorry for asking this because I know many of you know how to do it, but because I have such terrible knowledge on taking videos, could someone tell me exactly how to follow these instructions, but in a more elementary term? Explain it to me as if I am a youngin. I am copying and pasting fiddlermans words. I sure do appreciate it and thank you.

 

  • Have lighting in front of you and not behind you. Windows tend to make the object in the foreground look dark. Set up your camera opposite the window side and use sufficient lighting in front of you.

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@JimandThomas -

Just means to illuminate the front of the musician (by natural or artificial lighting) - without shadows cast from cameraman or equipment. 

...don't record until the click tracks become available.

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@ELCBK I understood that part, but what threw me off is the part that says Set up your camera opposite the window side ". For some reason, I still cannot understand exactly what that means. If I put the camera opposite the window side, then Thomas will be between me with the camera and the window....Remember, dumb it down for me

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@JimandThomas 

Just go to a neutral or attractive solid wall of your house, without a window.  If there’s a wreath or a Christmas tree in the background, that’s a plus.

Perform with your back to the wall.  Face into the room.  Turn on whatever lights you need in the room to give yourself a good appearance on the video.  Get enough light so that your face and fiddle show.  Do a few test shots. Put on your Santa hat, smile, and you’re good to go.

Hope that helps.

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The @gibbles tutorials are great, for the moment I'm practicing at around 70% of the tempo of the video, to be in good rhythm and then I will increase (how much is the tempo of the video?).

The arrangement of the piece is very beautiful, thank you for this beautiful Christmas project! 😍🎅

🎻since08.2019🎶

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@Unfretted Absolutely perfect. Thank you for dumbing it down for me, I really appreciate it. Pretty sad actually but.....ya gotta do whatcha ya gotta do

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maudmaud said
for the moment I'm practicing at around 70% of the tempo of the video, to be in good rhythm and then I will increase (how much is the tempo of the video?

@maudmaud 

I clocked Gibbles at very roughly 98 bpm with my metronome when he’s playing the full piece in the video.  Later, when he’s discussing snips of the piece, he plays the Violin 1 measures 21 through 25 runs at about 112 bpm.  (He deserves a speeding ticket at 112 🤣.)

I’ve got mine up to 90 bpm cleanly now.  Hope to reach a relaxed 100 bpm by increasing at one bpm going forward. There’s plenty of time.  Hopefully the click track will come in under 100 bpm and I can relax into that.

@JimandThomas 👍🏻

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@Fiddlerman -

I see the Fiddlershop YT channel has a couple more tutorials. 

The VIOLA Tutorial says in the description it's the "Violin 1 part". 

Gibbles' Viola Tutorial is actually the 'Viola 3' part. 

 

I haven't looked closely before this, and I haven't done a full note-to-note comparison (because I don't like to start learning a GP until I have the click track to practice to) but it looks like the only difference between Violin & Viola parts might just be 1 octave. 

...would appreciate confirmation on this.   

 

...feelin' like Gibbles is playing 123 BPM for Viola part, the Violin 1 tutorial is definitely slower.  I don't have a problem with speed, but the tutorials aren't consistent enough to use in place of a click-track.

What's the intended BPM? 

Perry Como sang it (approx 114 BPM), Mathis a little slower (approx 110 BPM) & Bing slower (approx 96), Michael Bublé much slower (approx 93 BPM).

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2023 GROUP PROJECT INFO LINK

TO MOVE IT FORWARD

 

https://fiddlerman.com/2023/08.....christmas/

 

Sheet music
Submitting instructions
Eventual click tracks
Previous group projects
Lesson Videos

 

YouTube Lesson Links for Group Projec

Violin 1 Group Project 2023

Violin 2 Group Project 2023

Violin 4 Group Project 2023

Viola Group Project 2023

 

Post is a work in progress

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The Bumblebee Flies!

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ELCBK said
@Fiddlerman -

Gibbles says the Click Tracks are available. 

Sorry, I've been keeping an eye out... I still don't see any Click Track Link

Sorry Emily, I'm working on them. He didn't realize that I would put up his video so soon. 😁

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Thank you Gibbles! I am doing cello, but hearing this has really helped me out. I encourage all parts to watch this. 

Thank you @Fiddlerman for posting this. I have been trying to learn the fingering and this will help immensely, even though I will be doing cello. 

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You are very welcome. All tutorials will soon be ready.

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Hi, Noobie here. Thanks for the add on. First time to attempt group project too. Just wondering if anyone can predict the BPM for the click track until it becomes available. I need to probably get a jump on it if possible. TIA! christmaswreath

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giegieviolin said  … First time to attempt group project too. Just wondering if anyone can predict the BPM for the click track until it becomes available. I need to probably get a jump on it if possible. 
  

Hi @giegieviolin ,

I’m just giving you MHO on my prediction for the tempo.  Personally, I think that measures 22 through 25 in Violin 1, as well as the corresponding runs in the Viola 1 part, are the “limiting factors” for the tempo.  Regardless of which part you intend to play, Gibbles’ Violin 1 tutorial video contains great information about the presentation of the piece and is worth a listen.  With my metronome, I timed Gibbles at roughly 98 bpm  on his performance during this video.  I can’t imagine many of us outpacing Gibbles or @Fiddlerman on the runs in those measures.  Therefore, I predict that the click track shouldn’t be more than about 98 or 100 bpm.  But that’s just my judgment.  Ultimately, @Fiddlerman sets the tempo and creates the click tracks.  He does seem to prefer an animated tempo each year, and in the end he produces a spectacular final presentation.

You can start at a moderate pace with your own metronome and work up the pace as you learn the piece.  Next, playing along with Gibbles’ videos at full pace or through reducing the video speed with YouTube settings should be great preparation.  If you can keep up with Gibbles, you’ll be good to go when the actual click tracks are available.  

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How does 96 sound to you guys?

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Fiddlerman said
How does 96 sound to you guys?

😀 🥰🥰🥰 😘😘😘😘😘😘😘, @Fiddlerman ! LOL

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Unfretted said

Fiddlerman said

How does 96 sound to you guys?

😀 🥰🥰🥰 😘😘😘😘😘😘😘, @Fiddlerman ! LOL

Glad to hear it. I want this to be feasible. 😁

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