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flute player in the group I fiddle with sent this to me.   very good track of Matt Malloy on flute.  not sure on other instruments.  

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Lot's of great tunes here to be obsessed by. :)

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

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@Fiddlerman said
Lot's of great tunes here to be obsessed by. :)

its never ending and instead of starting a new topic each time..figured id leave 'em here. 🙂  

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THIS.. sounded like a very good night!

2nd tune is castle kelley.  3rd tune is either red hair lass or green mountain.  not 100%.  

For those of you into this kind of stuff.  can you imagine being in a session with Matt Molloy and being able to play with them like this.  the Holy Grail.

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@ABitRusty -

I'd be in Heaven if I was just in the same room!

"Fred Finn's", "Castle Kelly" & "The Red-Haired Lass". 

Been wondering what was buggin' me about "Castle Kelly" & why I haven't played it... think there's only 1 reason - it sounds backwards to me, the A & B parts sound like they should be switched!

🤔... so if I switch parts, is it still the same tune? 

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no.  it would be castle kelley all screwed up.  😉🙂

i dont think the tune police will be bothering you though.

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😁 ...I'm supposed to be a 'Kelly' now - I better get my act together.

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-5 spelling...ok

heres the video version of the set earlier!

 

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I think I’ll be busy for a long time trying to get the set above and this one down.  This is Over the moor to Maggie/the bucks of oranmore.  If had to pick 1 of these to concentrate on it’s going to be bucks.  Happy tune!

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@ABitRusty -

Really like THAT version of the Bucks of Oranmore! 

Going to learn to play the bones to go with it???

 

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i assume you posted that because of the break in between maggie and bucks on the Roan innish track?

 

The Bucks is a good one to use to work on D arpeggio. ..arpeggios in general.  And the way i worked it so far is learn part 5 since its kind unique in the tune.  If you remember to think arpeggio it helps.

then the ending phrases in parts 1-4 are pretty much the same phrase except last 2 notes. They sorta alternate between an ascending line and decending.

the first part was easiest to remember for some reason.  i guess so part part 2 has been most difficult to remember

part 3 is my favorite.  part 4 sorta the same cept starting on F# instead of A

I think this one as far as remembering parts will come faster than i originally thought, but ill be working on how to decide on bowing.  Im forcing myself to play alternate right now..theres a natural slur pattern that wants to develop but when i hit the ending phrases things get wonky for some reason so im trying to figure that out.

this is such a fun tune to hear played well ..really want to get this one down.  ive imported into presonus and have it slowed down about 40 or bpm just to try and play along.  Hopefully will get some speed built up.  thinking this one is more a piper, whistle flute tune.  an assumption on my part

to answer...no not learning bones.🙄🙂

 

Beres a little writeup on it from tunearch

https://tunearch.org/wiki/Anno.....more_(The)

"...BUCKS OF ORANMORE, THE ("Boic Óráin Mhóir" or "Og-Fir Uaran-Mor"). AKA and see "Bucks of Cranmore (The)," "Bucks of Carranmore (The)," "Hearty Bucks (The)." Irish, Reel. D Major. Standard tuning (fiddle). AB (Kerr, Roche): AABB (Kennedy): ABCD (O'Neill/1850 & 1001): ABCD (Breathnach): ABCDE (Mallinson): AA'BCD (Taylor): AA'BB'CC'DD'E (Prior): AA'BB'CCDD'EE' (O'Neill/Krassen): AA'BB'CC'DD'EE' (Alewine): ABCDEFGH (Mitchell). One of the 'big tunes' in the tradition. Oranmore is in the west of Ireland in County Galway on the shore of Galway Bay. It is situated at the central point of roads leading to Galway, Dublin and Killarney, and perhaps because of this the area has a remarkable number of ancient ruins and fortified places. Seamus Ennis was of the opinion this tune was the very best of Irish reels. He was once asked what tune might appropriately follow it in a medley, and after thinking a bit he remarked, "You can't play anything after the 'Bucks'!" Varlet & Spottswood (1992) note: "'The Bucks', as Irish musicians often refer to this five-part reel, is a great favourite everywhere Irish music is played and is often performed last, as a crowning piece to mark the end of a musical gathering." According to Alun Owen (1973) and others, the tune is a celebrated testing piece for uilleann pipers, with many sporting their own versions of it. An early recorded version is by Waterford piper Liam Walsh (1886-1963), a pupil of Willie Rowsome (Leo's father), who waxed it in London in December, 1933. O'Neill (1913) relates that the accomplished piper Patrick Flannery (renowned especially for his jigs), a native of Ballinasloe, County Galway, who emigrated to New York about 1845, was playing this tune to a "fascinated audience" on the streets of Brooklyn when he died in the year 1855. Source Kelly told Brendan Breathnach that the old musicians used to play what is now the first part of the reel last, and that was how he played it. See also the "Killavil Bucks" for an unusual Sligo version of "Bucks of Oranmore," and the County Leitrim variant "Leitrim Bucks (The)."

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@ABitRusty -

Thought the bones was a good intro - instead of of a drum beat or a few guitar chords!

Thanks for the extra info! 

 

It's funny, I'd listened to the Bucks versions on The Session & didn't really care for them, but hearing Mason Daring play it changed my mind. 

Pretty cool... learned about other 5-part 'Single' & 'Double' reels in a discussion at The Session - other than "The Foxhunters" (the one I knew about)! 

5-Part Single Reels ~ not 2, 3, 4 or 6 ~ 5!

Some great tunes in the list, but I already started some new Nordic & Québécois tunes that challenge me. 

I can see those parts would be hard to memorize - can't wait to hear how you come out with this tune! 

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/07/ea/d6/07ead646a9764d033a20cf0d38f631fe.jpg

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oh im sure ill get it.. it may not pass in Ennis..or at local session for that matter.😀

but here in the cave...itll be beautiful.🙄😉

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for instance ...

lost it on repeat...whatever "IT" was 🤣

https://youtu.be/j51ePdCSur4

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That's GREAT! 🤗

Can't believe you got the whole thing memorized, already!

 

...not saying you want to play like this, but I was wondering why Mason Daring's version felt different from the others, so slowed it down to listen closer - have you noticed the sway in the groove he's got going? 

Doesn't it sound more like he's playing in 2/2?  One and Two and One and Two and... very driving, I'm not feeling a weaker 3rd beat emphasis like in typical 4/4. 

I listened to Martin Hayes's version (really nice) - sounds more like 4/4 to me. 

You have to check out this video - especially starting at 1:00 (if it isn't the cats, or the dogs...). 😄  Bucks of Oranmore - guitar, banjo and mandolin (Kazuma Music)

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you should ask mason.  

Im using the roan inish soundtrack slowed down but if you like something else better, thats what you should use.  pretty happy with progress, BUT... i know i have much to work on.  cant wait to try it in a set

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@elcbk i looked at lunch..  i cant be sure but i dont think mason played on this but was the music scorer for yhe movie.  Maybe had a spot for these tunes and turned it over to muscians..thats just my impression and cant find anything to back that up so internet bad info on my point if it sticks.

if you look on IMDB's site they list a bunch of muscians under music department.

they do have the one and two and youre talking about and if you slow WAY down can hear better.  i mean reels do, and thats the groove needed.

Trying to get rid of the straighty feel now that i have some notes. 

 

notes one thing... musicality another 😕

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@ABitRusty -

Thanx - was just wondering if you felt anything different in that recording by Mason. 

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I think the feel is about the same but i like the arrangement with the piper in the roan innish version.  Not because of any differences in groove, more on addition of more instruments.

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according to cdbaby the closing credits track lists The Hawthorne String Quartet as the artists.   Which is weird because i barely hear fiddles.   i hear alot of flute, pipe and even an box(bellows) type instrument other than the piper.  like i said above..there are many muscians listed as credit for playing.

wish i could isolate the bohran player and extract it for backing!  theres ways but that would take too much effort right now.

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