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ABitRusty

Them boys can play, cool sets.

 

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I missed one! 

@ABitRusty said:

6/8 Du Petit Sarny which is the 1st tune in the set here. I believe Eric Favreau wrote it. 

Like it! 

Enjoyed the workshops with Eric Favreau - have to see if he'll be at the April Fiddle Hell again! 

 

Really liking porthole of the kelp lately kinda mesermizing. Like the minor sound of it.

Finally had sun AND snow, so could definitely get into the mood of Porthole of the Kelp - thought it had a lot of great energy! 

All nice tunes - thanks for sharing! 

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/31/44/c4/3144c4dc09f5d52ec353b39196d0d3a5--owl-eyes-owl-illustration.jpg

 

 

...the night owl is dancing.

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This is a really good channel for slow/fast recordings of tunes.   Been playing with this version of Porthole of the Kelp.  They have built up a good tune list over there.  I like using these and playing along with different instruments/backing..  Most of the time slowed down.

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getting this one down.. another one thats grown on me after playing a few times.

 

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@ABitRusty I love the Snowy Path :) I forget if I learned it from a performance video or a tutorial, but it’s a great little tune! 

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@ABitRusty -

I can see why you like it - GREAT rhythm! 

I like Altan, but know I still haven't listened to all their albums, yet (thanks for reminding me).

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@elcbk said ".. I still haven't listened to all their albums, yet "

I have not either.   Just selected tracks off different albums.   Theres a mix of songs and tunes so its not all instrumental.

I do have them added in pandora.

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@ABitRusty I love the Snowy Path :) I forget if I learned it from a performance video or a tutorial, but it’s a great little tune! 

  

supposedly this was a popular session tune here but sorta fell off.  seems like the whistle tutor on youtube based out of Nashville mentioned as much in one of his vids.  It seems to have surfaced again and One of the fiddle players brought it up a few times so we ( my learning group ) are playing more.   It very well couldve always been circulating around other sessions locally.  either way,  Im like you and really like it.  

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Heard this today... pretty cool.  one to put on the list for eventually

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@ABitRusty -

YEE HAW!!! 

 

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Definitely foot-stompin' music! 

I hadn't heard these Altan tunes before -

had to listen twice to hear it was TWO tunes,

they really sound great together! 

...better than morning coffee! 

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yes.. more than 1 tune.  .. specifically glory reel but i like the heathery cruach too.

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Ive been playing along somewhat with this.  Even got the electric bass and viola bow and was messing around with that cello lick thats throughout but kinda difficult without the arched bridge.   Thinking maybe of doing some type of open tuning on electric guitar and using a slide.  For the inevitable cheesey track i know im gonna throw together 🤣  its a curse.  yeah i know i shared this video already..but Im putting it on "the list" for myself and if anyone wants to work a version up too.

 

 

Got me wondering about pairing John Naughtons jig with it.  I havent tried them together yet.   Thinking   version of it in Gdor or maybe its actually Dm.  this is a version of that tune but not sure what their playing it in

 

if that doesnt work, maybe morrisons or cliffs of moher.  although that may be too dark a set.   Someone referred to a minor set of jigs as a miserable set of jigs.   for the mood..but in my case may be the playing. hehe.

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@ABitRusty -

Oooo... my buddy from Doolin - nice stuff from Charles!

Martin's phrases for Garrett Barry's are ending strongly on 'D', maybe Ddor. 

Video description of John Naughton's says Gmin version of Old Man Dillon (that was easy!).  I had bookmarked this tune at The Session not long ago (was looking for Minor Jigs) - fell in love with the 1st Amin version. 

BUT, I really like when tunes shift to another key in a set, especially when starting out with a tune in a major key & moving into a minor one - think it can have more impact (if) you want to emphasize that change. 

I don't think you can go wrong, no matter how you end up playing these 2 together!

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Oh boy, I had to edit my post - keep forgetting I moved my strings (so my 'A' string is actually my 'D' string). 🤪 

...kinda makes a difference when I'm playing something to figure out a key!

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@ABitRusty -

Oooo... my buddy from Doolin - nice stuff from Charles!

Martin's phrases for Garrett Barry's are ending strongly on 'D', maybe Ddor. 

Video description of John Naughton's says Gmin version of Old Man Dillon (that was easy!).  I had bookmarked this tune at The Session not long ago (was looking for Minor Jigs) - fell in love with the 1st Amin version. 

BUT, I really like when tunes shift to another key in a set, especially when starting out with a tune in a major key & moving into a minor one - think it can have more impact (if) you want to emphasize that change. 

I don't think you can go wrong, no matter how you end up playing these 2 together!

  

yes id say garrets in Ddor.. maybe Amin.  whatever it is chords seem to be Dm, G, F mostly but every once in a while an A. so probably Am.  well from what ive done so far..keeping the door open to change mind 😉😁

thanks on pointing out naughtons.. i didnt even read description. doah!  just was flipping through some music and saw it ..it had an F key sig and the way it sounded knew for sure wasnt major and didnt even try chords. theyre playing evn lower i guess in that 2nd vid.

yeah maybe thse 2 with a d major or g major tune between...idk...gotta play around and see what i like.

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@ABitRusty - 

Still thinking Martin's version of Garrett Barry's is in a D scale, but after listening to videos with pipers, decided to go back & listen for an F# (it's the deciding factor - there's no F# in Ddor or Dmin) - I do hear it, so Dmix! 🤗

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ELCBK said
@ABitRusty - 

Still thinking Martin's version of Garrett Barry's is in a D scale, but after listening to videos with pipers, decided to go back & listen for an F# (it's the deciding factor - there's no F# in Ddor or Dmin) - I do hear it, so Dmix! 🤗

  

There are Fs and F#s and Cs and C#s. It's a western classical obsession to be categorical, and perhaps we should acknowlege that other traditions can be freer?

Alternatively, you can consider the fluctuation between F and F# and C and C# to be akin to grace notes. That would probably just lead you into a further desire to categorise (which is primary and which is grace note?).

A further possibility is that such performances are just "jazzed up" versions, by overly-knowing moderns, of something older and more basic: -

https://www.fiddlevideo.com/ga.....tt%20Barry.

So your starting point would seem to be Irish pipes, except that that becomes awkward if the original scale was D, E, E, F, G, A, B, C, C, high D, in which case D Dorian would appear to be totally unnatural.

This page on scottish border pipes however says mix, but also speculates on Dorian.

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whatever the scale is im using to play along with to the common ground version is... i dont remember using any f#.   seems to start on open D string.   and likes going back..  so yeah some version of a D scale where you play natural F's seems to be where i end up.  but thats just me.   idk..

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are yall hearing a piper in the common ground verion of Garretts?  i hear something thats either concertina or accordian...some type of that style instrument.  I just havent picked up on a piper in that track. not disagreeing just blabbing.

  I think the main thing that draws me to play this over and over is the cello..i mean garretts is a great tune and all but the arrangement here turns it into something even better.  also the drone note being plucked, of all things, throughout catches my ear.  think its a cool effect.

dmix... juat basing on what ive played and not saying it is or isnt...but again i havent played f#'s with this.  errr...maybe i should be.  haha.  

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@ABitRusty -

This is crazy. 

I tried listening to Martin's Garrett Barry's with fresh ears. 

No pipes ('I' made ref to other videos)... Kate on Cello, Martin on Violin (maybe multiple tracks of Cello & violin), near the end Cormac takes off on the piano like an insect avoiding capture - but someone is playing, at least intermittently, a few notes on guitar (or possibly bouzouki?) right from about 00:13...  

So, guitar(?) or bouzouki(?) at: 

00:13 into 14 - I hear like a slightly flat G# plucked(?)

00:19 - I hear a single F plucked(?)

00:39 into 40 - I hear a single C plucked(?)

Then, there's predominantly a 'D' plucked starting around 1 minute in (also few other notes). 

 

Geez, F# drone 👎 isn't sounding good with it today, but an 'F' drone 👍 does!  Doesn't help that I'm listening along with practice drones that have prominent overtones. 

Anyway, I'm back to thinking Ddor!  🤗

I wonder if there isn't more than meets the eye (ear) going on here - are they changing intonation as the music progresses? 😳 Or, just mixing in microtones? 

 

...don't think I can trust myself to tune my fiddle, now. 🥴

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oh yeah... wasnt really thinking about the intro stuff before say :55.  but all that could be anything.   I havent been doing anything till the main bit starts after :55. coffee2  sorry.. 🙂  i should have clarified facepalm

thank you for taking time to talk about it!   and check stuff out!  

the pluck i was talking about is after everything gets going...im suspecting like you say its gonna be a constant D note but havent tried that yet.  maybe later with a fiddle!

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