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KindaScratchy
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Almandin said

Anyway, I played that clip to my dad, and he said he recognised the tune. I asked how he thought I sounded and he was all "That was you?!" So yeah, probably the best I've played so far... Dad also said that my tempo was just right, because it's a sad song. Though I've gotta say I like Gemma DeRagon's spiked version better!

Congrats, Alma...that's a huge compliment from your Dad.

It's interesting that your Dad said it's a sad song. That's how I remember my grandmother singing it...more like a ballad. I was surprised the first time I heard it played upbeat.

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I pull out my fiddle and I rosin up the bow.

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Is there a better way to deal with movie making than windows moviemaker?? evidently Im missing some codec files and its just not going to work.. Youtube quality is bad bad and I cant seem to change it.. looking for something else or im going to have to bow out gracefully... any help appreciated... Paul

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Paul don't bow out. Youtube can accept many types of files. Heck, I watch full length movies streamed from Youtube. What kind of computer setup do you have. Windows Movie Maker actually works well. It's all about what you use to record yourself. Software programs can make you sound like CD quality and much better but it depends on what you use to record.

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been using my much less than expensive hd video camera, I should try the wifes camera, maybe the movies will be a different file type..Its rapidly turning into a pita..lololol tommorow...

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[BUMP]

The deadline on this is Saturday, November 10, with files sent to Pierre via sprend.

 

 

someone correct me if I am wrong...

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fishnrodds said
Is there a better way to deal with movie making than windows moviemaker?? evidently Im missing some codec files and its just not going to work.. Youtube quality is bad bad and I cant seem to change it.. looking for something else or im going to have to bow out gracefully... any help appreciated... Paul

Little experience with it, but here is a list of possibilities:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C.....g_software

I would look at Avidemux and Virtualdub

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/.....ad-windows

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Now I'm majorly confused. I just started looking into the B part properly and realised that Gemma DeRagon doesn't play what it says in the notes I downloaded off of here. There are several discrepancies. So which is it? I reckon the Fiddlerman version is to be used, but having heard her version several times, that one kind of sounds like an upper part for hers in places... Please help! dazed

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Alma,

Here is the link to Gemma DeRagon's complete lesson on Red Wing.

http://fiddle-tunes.com/red-wing-2/

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Yes Barry.... Why don't you do one on your viola too???
That would be nice.

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but the one who needs the least."

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Sorry if this has already been addressed, but should we repeat to the beginning and run through more than once? If so how many times?

I know the sheet music doesn't have a repeat at the end, but it seems short. Thought maybe we should play through it more than once, as if doing multiple verses.

dunno

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Nevermind. I just ran through it with the backing track, which repeats three times, so I assume we should do the same.

BTW, that backing track is fast! Whew! It's tough to keep up. dazed

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So:

1) We play along with old jam machine (which we set on low volume in PA)

2) And sprend vids to Pierre on 10th!

Am i missing something? droolingparty =)

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Anybody know how many beats per minute the backing track is?

I've got it timed at 120 bpm, but not sure if that's right.

I'm asking because I'm having trouble starting on time with the Old Time Jam. There's not enough time to get into position after clicking the start button...at least for me.

So, I'm thinking that I'll do better if I can just set a metronome to the right tempo and play along with that in-ear. Then I can start at my leisure.

BTW, I've created my own further-simplified part in Finale Notepad. Just can't get my fingers and bow to move fast enough at the end of the A part, even in Barry's simplified version.

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dazed   duncecap 

Ok ... senility ... old age ... whatever.  I can't do it, try as I might.

So I decided I'd just get the chord chart from the Old Time Jam Machine and play those only, just so I could actually be in on this project.

To my dismay, there aren't enough chords (or I'm too stupid to read it properly).

I'm so spoilt, I can only read music which is laid out in black and white for me, and I've already discovered that the printout I have needs to be repeated, but from where I've no idea.

I remember reading, maybe Barry posted it, a list just in chord formation.  I've never played music like that, but I'm sure I could make some sort of noise if I knew which noise to make.

Maybe I'm too late here anyway, needs to be finished in a few days.

Oh woe is me!!!

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Looks like it's too fast for almost everybody.

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I feel your pain, Robin. I not only want to participate in this project, I am determined to really jam on this, not rely on others covering me up (or Pierre turning my audio track way down).

So, here's what I'm doing that I think will work, at least for me:

1. I simplified the sheet music even further, taking out notes, replacing them with rests, in places where I have difficulty. I hope this will sound OK, but I'm guessing that it will, given what Barry has said about jams and improvising.

I'm attaching my simplified version to this post in case it helps anyone else. Barry and Pierre, if this doesn't look right to you and you think it will mess other people up, please say so.

2. I've pegged the backing track at 124 bpm (hopefully, that's right). So, I plan to use a metronome app in-ear rather than play with the backing track. The Old Time Jam tracks are great but I'm personally not ready to play along with this one. I find it impossible to start on time and keep up once I do catch up.

After I get my video submitted for this project, I do plan to keep trying with the Old Time Jam for various songs, as it's obviously good practice if I ever hope to jam with people for real.

I hope this helps...or at least doesn't hurt...someone else.

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Thanks for that Kindascratchy ... why didn't I think of that before?

So where does it repeat from at the end, or is it 'just start again at the beginning'?

Thanks again.

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Robyn.fnq said
I'm so spoilt, I can only read music which is laid out in black and white for me, and I've already discovered that the printout I have needs to be repeated, but from where I've no idea.

I remember reading, maybe Barry posted it, a list just in chord formation.  I've never played music like that, but I'm sure I could make some sort of noise if I knew which noise to make.

Maybe I'm too late here anyway, needs to be finished in a few days.

Oh woe is me!!!

dunno  facepalm

Word, Robyn! Woe is us...

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Robyn.fnq said
Thanks for that Kindascratchy ... why didn't I think of that before?

So where does it repeat from at the end, or is it 'just start again at the beginning'?

Thanks again.

Yes, just start again at the beginning after you've gone through the whole thing (repeating the A section, of course, per the sheet music). The Old Time Jam backing track plays the entire piece three times total, so I assume that's what we should do.

BTW, I hope that version was helpful. I realize that the parts that give me trouble -- which I simplified -- may not be the same parts that you have trouble with. If not, you could do the same and just white out the troublesome notes and substitute rests.

Regarding chords, I can repost my "further simplified" version again tonight with chords (just the letters above the staff indicating chord changes), if that would help.

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KindaScratchy said

Regarding chords, I can repost my "further simplified" version again tonight with chords (just the letters above the staff indicating chord changes), if that would help.

Thanks again ... maybe I can take the first note from each bar ... does that sound feasible?

Or maybe I'll take you up on your latest offer, and see if I can manage that one.

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