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Why is there something wrong on pinkie vibrato?
Pinkie vibrato not sound clear and clean
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antreidez
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January 3, 2015 - 1:32 am
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When I use my Pinkie to do vibrato, there is this squeaky note,hidden note that just sounds not so obvious. I cant really explain it in english but it sounds really annoying.

 

When I try to vibrate less there's this sound of another note. Please I need help Is this because of the bridge is too short? or is my bow hitting the other strings? I'll post a video if this is still hard to understand T_T

 

Thank you!

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My pinky was damaged in an accident early on in my playing of the violin so I can't relate to your issue but doing vibrato in the first 2 or 3 years of learning to play is not as productive as later on after a good intonation foundation is established.

I have a difficult time just using three of my four fingers to play but it works pretty well for me. Vibrato with them is just beginning for me and I've been playing for about 3 yrs now.

A video would be very helpful for anyone else to comment on.thumbs-up

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My guess is that your pinkie is too weak to compete with the other fingers. Apply more pressure with you pinkie and let us know if that solves it.

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Fiddlerman said
My guess is that your pinkie is too weak to compete with the other fingers. Apply more pressure with you pinkie and let us know if that solves it.

cdennyb said
My pinky was damaged in an accident early on in my playing of the violin so I can't relate to your issue but doing vibrato in the first 2 or 3 years of learning to play is not as productive as later on after a good intonation foundation is established.

I have a difficult time just using three of my four fingers to play but it works pretty well for me. Vibrato with them is just beginning for me and I've been playing for about 3 yrs now.

A video would be very helpful for anyone else to comment on.thumbs-up

Thank you for your replies. But i just noticed it also happens when i shift to 3rd position and then press F sharp. This only happens when I do vibrato. Here is a video.

I'm so worried why does this sound not clear? and is this normal? I dont know if you could hear it in the video.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uKRPMQwfGw

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I'm guessing that what you're describing is an overtone.  I do not seem hear it on the recording.  Remember that the violin will sound quite a bit different to you while you are playing it than it does to a listener several feet away.  

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I'm with Uzi. More like a wolf. I kind of hear it. If you do the same thing without vibrato but roll your finger till you hear a shifting of the tone so to speak and see if you can locate the exact notes that cause this.
Sometimes, changing the soundpost to a different diameter will fix this problem. Also, at times, I've noticed that a wolf tone eliminator does the trick.

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Fiddlerman said
I'm with Uzi. More like a wolf. I kind of hear it. If you do the same thing without vibrato but roll your finger till you hear a shifting of the tone so to speak and see if you can locate the exact notes that cause this.
Sometimes, changing the soundpost to a different diameter will fix this problem. Also, at times, I've noticed that a wolf tone eliminator does the trick.

Uzi said
I'm guessing that what you're describing is an overtone.  I do not seem hear it on the recording.  Remember that the violin will sound quite a bit different to you while you are playing it than it does to a listener several feet away.  

Oh I see. Thank you for your responses!

But i just noticed this only will sound when I do vibrato. And when I use vibrato the tendency is the finger hits the other string.

For example when I press the F sharp and do vibrato it slightly hits the E or 1st string. When I vibrate with the D string on 3rd position A note my finger hits slightly the 2nd string and that's when the sound "wolf or overtone is made",

Does this mean my A string and E string are too close together? and I need to change my bridge or just move the e string more further?

Maraming salamat (Thank you) Fiddlerman and Uzi!

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I figured that your vibrato crosses on that wolf tone or overtone perhaps. This is why I figured you can slide your finger super slowly to see if there is at any point a disturbance in the sound that is not like everywhere else.

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Fiddlerman said
I figured that your vibrato crosses on that wolf tone or overtone perhaps. This is why I figured you can slide your finger super slowly to see if there is at any point a disturbance in the sound that is not like everywhere else.

yes your right fiddlerman, It sounds like the string has a cut or a bump? It really sounds annoying especially when I press the C. but thank you fiddlerman for your help. I already orederd a wolf eliminator :-) Hope everything will get fix when that arrives.

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That works on rare occasions but try someone else's violin as well. :)
You might discover that you need a different instrument. <--- not trying to sell you one, just saying!!!

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Fiddlerman said
That works on rare occasions but try someone else's violin as well. :)
You might discover that you need a different instrument. <--- not trying to sell you one, just saying!!!

Haha actually I really want to buy one, but in this country violins are still uncommon and the best brands are not easy to find, wish I could order one from here but I dont have any paypal T_T

 

Bttw fiddlerman! the wolf eliminator seems to work. At times, the sound is solid but when I press C it still has this wolf sound but not so often anymore :-) Thank you so much

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Very happy to hear that the wolf eliminator worked for you. :)

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