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Anyone ever heard of a Pirani Primavera Firenza violin? I saw one advertised for sale by private owner and it's the most gorgeous violin  I've ever seen. It's out of my price range, but I'd still like to know more about it. I did a search for that brand but nothing turned up. I'd post a pic but I can't do it from my phone.

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You probably will never find a good answer to that question. Generally speaking the term "brand" doesn't seem to apply to violins the way it does to some things like guitars, for example.  For the most part, it appears that there are shops around the world that produce violins, either finished or unfinished, from low quality to high quality and they send them to a few wholesale distributors located here in the states, who then finish them and/or set them up, slap some italian name on them and sell them.  

There are exceptions, of course, like Giiga, Ming Jiang Zhu, Cicilio, etc. that allow you to know what shop(s) made them, but more often than not, it appears that for violins, this is not the case.

For example, there is a nice line of advancing student violins and fiddles called Martin Beck that is showing up more frequently in the hands of blue grass and old time fiddlers.  They come through Eastman, I think.  Where were they made?  As close as I've ever come to an answer was "a small shop in Romania."  They are sent to Eastman "in the white" where they are completed, varnished and set up, then sold as "Martin Beck."  They are really good fiddles, but who makes them?  Only Eastman knows. 

The other exception is violins that are made by well known makers, who make very few and very expensive violins. 

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I understand and agree with everything you said. But I would think that if it was made for a violin shop/store here in the US that I would at least be able to find one listed on a shop's website somewhere. This particular violin was made in 1992. I would think that if that was a shop label, there'd be more of them and an online search would at least reveal who they were sold by. But I can't find anything at all. Zip. Zilch. Nada. Oh well. 

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This is all I could find.

Probably not of much use to you though. dunno

http://lafayette.craigslist.or.....43122.html

Seen it all. Done it all. Can't remember most of dunno ..... What was I saying???? facepalm

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That's the very one I'm interested in. Ain't she a beaut!!!

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October 15, 2014 - 8:36 am
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You could always give Thomas a call. (818) 246-0278
He if anyone, should know.

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

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Thanks. I've already emailed him and will give him a little time to respond. If I don't hear back, I may call him. 

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So I heard back from Thomas. It seems this violin came from the House of Primavera in Philadelphia. Not sure if it was made there or imported with their label. They don't seem to have a website.

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Here's their contact info:

The House of Primavera Violins

130 S 18th St,

Philadelphia, PA 19103

(267) 886-8907

And here's some more information (very interesting):

http://www.associazioneali.it/.....do-56.html

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Thanks, Uzi. I saw that too. The number that's listed isn't a working number. I wonder if they're still in business.

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fiddle chick said
Thanks, Uzi. I saw that too. The number that's listed isn't a working number. I wonder if they're still in business.

From the gist of the article, it looks like they may have pulled up stakes and moved to Cremona.  It looks like a lot of people apprenticed at this shop and then went on to make violins elsewhere -- which is a really good sign I would think.  Looking at the fiddle you showed, I liked the way that the grain of the wood was tighter near the center and widened as it went to the edges.  That's  a good thing as far as I understand it. The question is, of course, how does it play and how does it sound?  If you live in Lafayette, I'd recommend checking it out. 

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I'm two hours away and I am trying to set up an appointment to see and play it. I'm just hoping to find out a little more about it before I go. The person who currently owns it apparently doesn't play and doesn't know anything about it other than what's listed on the appraisal. I haven't asked yet, but I'm assuming it's inherited from a family member.  I can't imagine why else they would be in possession of it if they don't play. 

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Well, as always, take the necessary precautions when going go look at stuff on Craig's List. 

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Lovely instrument.  Interested to hear if you get to play.

Is it a Guarneri copy?  It has many similarities to mine.

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