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Creating a Violin & Piano Duet
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Jim I just downloaded it in the last few months when i became aware of davinci.  that thing does it all..and yea the color page, which i havent gotten to yet is a program to itself.   I downloaded their free course on it and the same projects and have been working through the edit tab page as i get time.  usually just a bit at lunch or something.  fusion is the main thing im interested in.  premiere elements doesnt have anything like that..  

i have one of the cheapest box lamps from amazon i got a while back for a family photo.  i usually point at the ceiling and bounce off it but sometimes just turn on the panel lights in the ceiling.  those were flourecents but i changed them out to led panels in the fall.  bright but cold looking.

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Jim I just downloaded it in the last few months when i became aware of davinci.  that thing does it all..and yea the color page, which i havent gotten to yet is a program to itself.   I downloaded their free course on it and the same projects and have been working through the edit tab page as i get time.  usually just a bit at lunch or something.  fusion is the main thing im interested in.  premiere elements doesnt have anything like that..  

i have one of the cheapest box lamps from amazon i got a while back for a family photo.  i usually point at the ceiling and bounce off it but sometimes just turn on the panel lights in the ceiling.  those were flourecents but i changed them out to led panels in the fall.  bright but cold looking.

  

It's hard to believe you get all that for free isn't it? Since I discovered it I haven't used anything else for editing - why would you.

I bought a couple of cheap softboxes* a while ago, but I only have a bulb holder for one of them (home made - haven't got round to making another yet). They turned out to be a bit big and cumbersome for the space I have upstairs and I don't have any stands for them, so they're not getting used much. I fancy a camera-mounted LED panel, but it's a nightmare trying to pick a decent one for the money I'd be prepared to spend (under £50). 

 

* This video is taken with one softbox as a keylight and a couple of fill light made from LED bulbs with greaseproof paper over them. I look like I've just been dug up.

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Eureka!

I've found the problem with Audacity. The error only happens when you have  "Play other tracks while recording (overdub)" selected in Recording options. That's why it suddenly started falling over - I had added a second track for the second recording session -  and why creating a new project (with only one track) made it work again. This was despite the fact that the other track was muted.

The default sample rate was set to 44.1kH, which is also wrong (though I don't understand why in that case the original tracks were set to 48 automatically).

I don't know why it won't play back at the same time as recording, but I don't really care either as long as I can record without getting errors all over the place.

So now I'm all set to go with the piano recordings.

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I had the urge to muck about a bit more to see how well I can splice video of the piano and violin together, so I just took a couple of rough and ready takes of the piano part for the first section of the piece. The piano sound is just through the video cam and I didn't bother taking the front off.

The video below is the result, and I think it works pretty well.

For the real take I'll probably move the close up of the keyboard leftwards, so you see less of my body and more of the piano, which will include the hammers etc when the front's off.

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@Jim Dunleavy -

That's GREAT! 

Hope you'll consider lingering a little longer on your 1st split-screen at the beginning, even though you cut back to it later. 

Never a dull moment - such fun! 🤗

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yeah thats working great Jim!  looks good there!  

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Emily, you're absolutely right, it works much better with a longer lead in. I also added the titles to prevent it looking too static at the start.

@ABitRusty  Yes, I was surprised how well it came out - I had a bit of trouble getting the colours to match because I recorded the violin on a dull day, and it's bright and sunny today, but I got there.

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Ooo, Ooo, Ooo - add your name, too! 🥰 

FABULOUS!!!! 

💖💖💖💖💖

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thats sneaky Jim!  well, it worked perfect adjusting colors and one way around the problem of lighting if you have to split up doing the video takes.

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Jim Dunleavy

Your going to have a very good video when your all done.

Thanks for bringing us along.

Mark

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Thanks guys.

All I need now is the high quality recording of the piano sound while I video the whole piano part and I'm there. That takes a lot of setting up though, so it'll be after the work gets done in the house.

I might take some video while I'm touching up the piano just for anyone that's interested in how it's done (or how I do it anyway).

Until then, thanks for your continuing interest in this project - I'm having so much fun doing it!

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Brilliant jim love it, sounds excellent with the piano. timing must have been very difficult but it is turning out really good, the split screen is a great idea as well.

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Definitely a notch up when you play with the piano. Keep up the great work.
Thanks for posting!

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I am really enjoying this. Imlove that tune. You really sound great.

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Thanks @stringy @Fiddlerman and @Mouse.

I can't wait to get this finished, but our bathroom refit is now in progress and the noise and disruption is too much for me to add to it by setting up to record the piano. So I'm just keeping the piano part in practice for the moment.

I've also started practising the parts for my next project, which I mentioned above - the Ethel Smyth folk song for Flute, Violin and Piano. Apparently this Ethel Smyth is NOT the US organist (as I said above) but an English composer who was also part of the womens' suffrage movement in the UK. She had an interesting life!  

https://www.ethelsmyth.org/

EDIT: having checked back in the thread, I didn't say that Ethel Smyth was the US organist - I was thinking it though, despite the fact that Emily posted the fact she was English! Senility is clearly setting in. blink

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Well, the bathroom was finished almost 2 weeks ago (it's lovely!), but it's taking me a while to get round to finishing this project off. 

I have moved things on though - today I tuned the piano. It had drifted a fair bit, probably a combination of the changeable weather and the fact that before January I hadn't tuned it for a couple of years. It sounds very good now though, so I need to get set up to record it. Watch this space!

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A couple of days ago i went looking for this thread.  was afraid i missed the final video.  Looking gorward to it Jim!

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Hi @ABitRusty  - nope, you didn't miss it, I've been dragging my heels while I recover from the stress of the banging and hammering and the disruption of our normal routine.

Anyway, the gear is all set up downstairs by the piano, so I'm ready to record tomorrow, all being well. I'm looking forward to finally getting the whole thing in the can so I can put the final video together.

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All ready to go now; I just have to wait for the washer in the kitchen to finish. amuse

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Aw, why not have some washer background. Could be interesting. 

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