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Do I put too much rosin?
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Ok,,,, luff.... if you look at a strand of horse hair under a super high powered microscope, you'll see the hair looks like it has scales. By only playing without rosining will eventually clean the rosin from the surface of the bow, but small amount's of rosin still remain in the scale's of the hair. It's like having a hole in a piece of wood and putting wood filler on the wood then scraping it off, the remaining filler stays in the hole. In order to get a new complete surfaced you need to remove the old wood filler from the hole, same with rosin. Am I clear on that, do you understand my point?

Many year's ago, a man who raised horses told me that his horse's with white tail's and mane's, he used Corn Starch on the tail and mane to clean and whiten the hair. He also told me that's how they cleaned the "Budweiser" Clydesdale horses.  DOn't know how true it is but I can't dispute him, because I don't know for sure.

When I clean my bow's with alcohol, after they are completely dry, I only apply enough rosin until I get a nice smooth sound. Too much rosin is defeating the purpose, it rub's off on the string's and then you get the scratchy sounds.

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Great idea.  And corn starch won't harm the finish like rosin.

 

(Just kidding  ...... your post is right on and a lot of people don't know about the microscopic view.)

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(I've been know to dry the horsehair with my wife's hair dryer.)

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You have ansered your question -- if you put too much rosin on the bow it just rubs off on the strings and then starts to build up on the surface of your Violin. Then all you have to do is clean the strings off, and the Violin.  Once you get the bow rosined up you don't have to rerosin for quite a while. Just listen for bad sounds. I reapply rosin after 2, 3, even 4 hours of playing. Enen then I only stroke the rosin about 6 or 8 times.birthday_ballooncheerleaderclap

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Thanks again Fiddlestix for the great answers. Took a look under the microscope, looks really scaley/flaky at 1600x magnification, i see your point. I'll  try to post pictures comparing  hair with rosin and one without if i can find my microscope camera.

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I never clean my bow hair.  This way I have one more excuse.

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Kevin M. said
I never clean my bow hair.  This way I have one more excuse.

LOL,,, Kevin, great answer     clap

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I never clean mine either. Then again, I never go more than 3-4 months before rehairing my bow.....

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Ehh... I think I know about this... Dark rosin is awesome.. I actually using it now...

 

About rosin.... I usually use 1 - 2 bow stroke on my bow ( too much is not good.. I can't handle it =.= )

 

And about cleaning... You can clean it with alcohol... but put alcohol far from your violin and never let alcohol go in to the surface... or you'll pay for it exactly..... Just clean it right after practice/perform and if it build up too much, use coin, put the coin with angle of 30 and slide it softly through the build up place.

 

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Thank's SBV,, I've been saying all along to clean rosin build up with alcohol, but everyone want's to argue with me.   facepalm

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I never argued with you about that Fiddlestix... in fact I have a small 1/2 pint jar of 170+proof in my cupboard just for such things.thumbs-up

I even cleaned the hair once and it works great. Of course the caution to not get it on the fiddle is valid... after all, it is an organic solvent that will soften and mess up the varnish.

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I think what people are saying is that you should be very careful not to get the alcohol on the varnish of either the bow or the violin.

Also, not necessary to do it too often.

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Would I be correct in thinking that it would be good to clean the bow-hair with alcohol if one changes brand/type of rosin, then?

My newer bow was only used with the newer dark rosin I got at the same time, but with reading this thread I have started thinking of cleaning the older bow that came free with the violin to try it with the darker rosin since it seems to work better.

I am thinking that at the worst, I might mess up the hair badly.  But that isn't such a concern to me, since I have a hank of hervex (I think that's the name anyway, synthetic bow hair) that I got for trying re-hairing my bow when it eventually becomes necessary.  The hervex was cheap, and I figured that if I mess up I can feel better about messing up a bit of synthetic than I would if some poor stallion in Mongolia was going around bare-butted for nothing..LOL

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All rosins produce dust but some less than others. The better more expensive rosins are usually designed to be more efficient.

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i dont think I put enough on

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