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damfino said

......I dropped out for now, big confidence drop and just feeling hard on myself, so just not feeling it (it's one of those "I should just sell my fiddle" kind of days). I will most likely be around to watch everyone, though :D    

Awwww....   DON'T SELL THE FIDDLE !!!  ( OK, I know you won't :) )

Actually, I just posted a response on your Ballydesmond Polka thread - I won't repeat it all here - just follow the link - https://fiddlerman.com/forum/s.....ka/#p88951

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Mark said

 
Under ear and what folks hear with multiple instruments at a distance can be quite different.

This is well worth keeping in mind! I hear this all the time playing in orchestras: conductors even ask us to deliberately do things that sound awful under our ears, because what the audience hears at a distance is completely different.

Even when you know you made a mistake, keep in mind that you are paying a lot more attention to your mistakes than anyone listening. It's common to think about what went wrong and ignore what went right when you're playing. Your audience is definitely hearing everything that went well.

That said: @damfino, don't feel pressured to play if you really don't want to. We all have those days sometimes.

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BillyG said

Awwww....   DON'T SELL THE FIDDLE !!!  ( OK, I know you won't :)

Haha, no I won't, even if sometimes I feel like it :)

I'll see if I can get my nerve up to play today, but still not sure I'm feeling it.

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damfino said...

I'll see if I can get my nerve up to play today, but still not sure I'm feeling it.  

 

  Not a problem - just do what feels best for you right now.  Sometimes a short break works wonders !    :)

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damfino said

I dropped out for now, big confidence drop and just feeling hard on myself, so just not feeling it (it's one of those "I should just sell my fiddle" kind of days). I will most likely be around to watch everyone, though :D    

Do forum members get a discount? :)))

Just kidding of course :) Like Billy said, don't sell the fiddle! 

Do you have any specific reason for the confidence drop? Try to define the reason for yourself.. it could help in setting goals and identifying things to work on, but before that go back and watch a video you did a couple of months ago, I bet you will see a major improvement compared to that and I also bet when you started out you never would have thought you'd be actually playing the tunes you ARE playing today.. 

Other than that, don't stress yourself too much about it, because you're actually doing quite well. I always enjoy listening to your fiddle tunes and I also liked the recent one you uploaded, the ballydesmond polka. Like sure.. it could use a bit more work, but so does every tune everyone else ever played :) Musicians always aim for perfection, but it's the very imperfections that make their tunes unique and 'perfect' :)   

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Got back from my first lesson as Billy was finishing, listening to the replay as I type.

Quoting @AndrewH "Even when you know you made a mistake, keep in mind that you are paying a lot more attention to your mistakes than anyone listening. It's common to think about what went wrong and ignore what went right when you're playing. Your audience is definitely hearing everything that went well."

Overheard the teacher talking to a young cellist prior going in, he was talking the same thing.  What you hear and know as mistakes the audience mostly never notices, they just hear beautiful sounds.  I knew from hearing that I picked the right teacher, and as it turns out I did.  (Except he told me to stop playing Dmaj as warmup, do the C maj instead, start with the hard one he said :) )

We will be using Essential Strings, he started me way in (#136), saying my 4 months of youtube gave me a great base (yippee, not a total waste of time).

Great job @Tipiaowsek and @billyg thank you (Tipi, ty for Swan Lake, my wake up music, so beautiful and your Silent Night is so much better then mine (for now :) )..  @damfino (Mandy) you sound great, we all have those smash the devilish thing at times moments...

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James(why the hell can't I find people's @ today!!), I thought I did quite horribly on some songs yesterday. ^^' But I'm glad that you like Swan lake and Silent night. :)

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Many thanks to the players @Tipiaowsek (your first Strings on Sunday - well done!) and Rob van Neil- and of course to the audience.  It was as ever a fun afternoon / evening...

Hope you soon put the "confidence-sapping gremlins" behind you @damfino - just join back in whenever you're ready, but thanks for tuning-in :)     

Man, I had to laugh - after Kesh Jig I wanted to play Red Wing - well - like those of you who saw it already know - could I get the A-part....   nope - it just kept turning back into Kesh....   I finally got it by starting with the B-part of Red Wing haha - but, that's what it's all about - all good fun....

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Sorry I missed the shows :( Sounds like it was fun. 

Bob in Lone Oak, Texas

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@Bob - you can still catch my own show on SJ - the "replay" will stay there for another - oh - about 4 hours... LOL

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@BillyG, just jumped over and watched your replay... really like your conversational style of presenting. It's like sitting around with a bunch of friends and jamming :) Got my Thanksgiving, and Christmas music all caught up now.

BTW: I really liked the Billy's Return tune, especially on the "Viola/in" Nice sound. Did you have a pickup on that viola, I saw a wire dangling?

Thanks again and I'll make sure to drop in next Sunday.

Bob

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@bob - cool - thanks for your kind words  :)

And that was the whole idea of my Strings on Sunday get-togethers - no pressure - no expectations of perfection - nearest thing to a jam session as we could get....

Yup - Billy's Return was effectively my first fiddle tune composition - a kind of slow-air - and I struggled with a name for the tune - finally, "Billy's Return" came to mind, as in my return to writing music (wrote a few tunes and lyrics (guitar and other instruments) years ago).

No, there was no active pickup in use on the "violinola" ( she's called Violetta :) ) although there are pickups fitted - they allow me to play her through my Boss guitar FX box, octave drop her, and - "voila" the "viola" has the range (if not the actual timbre) of a cello ! - here she is in action as both - 

 

EDIT:  I should add that the instrument is actually an "old" (late 1970 probably) Chinese SkyLark.   In spite of all my efforts, she's pretty much dead (as a violin) anywhere above E on the A string ( and anywhere on the E ! ).   I had intended to chop her up for firewood (at that time, "she was a he" and was called Hermano del Diablo) but restringing as a viola kind of works.....  it apparently also had the effect of a gender change on the instrument name :)

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@BillyG I believe at least one string manufacturer is now making "octave" violin and viola strings that sound an octave lower, putting them in cello range. I haven't tried them, but maybe you'd be interested in that kind of thing?

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AndrewH said
@BillyG I believe at least one string manufacturer is now making "octave" violin and viola strings that sound an octave lower, putting them in cello range. I haven't tried them, but maybe you'd be interested in that kind of thing?  

Yes, thank you @AndrewH - I was aware of that.   For the viola->cello "transformation" the octave strings would be an interesting experiment to observe not only how they sound, but also how they respond and play under the bow.

It is just "one of the many other things on my agenda to mess with"  :)

One day, one day...roflol

EDIT: Since this topic has re-surfaced - a few tips and "don't do things" if anyone is planning something similar.    (1) I retained the violin G, D, and A strings, just moving them one peg-and-bridge position up so G goes where the D was, D where the A was and A where the E was.   The original E just becomes a spare E for something else....  (2) This is a "don't" - I originally got myself a C string (to fit in place of the original G position) specifically intended for a viola.  However, because of its quite different weight and tension, although it COULD be played, it demanded a lot of bowing-effort and it tended to over-vibrate once set in motion and sounding.  Bad decision.    (3) The final answer was to get a C string intended for a 5-string violin - I chose the Thomastik Vision-Titanium C - specifically designed as a violin string with the normal length, weight and stiffness for a 4/4 violin.  It blends in reasonably well with the remaining original strings (which, I think are currently Dominants - I'd have to check the colors though) in terms of bow-ability and sound.

A fun project if you have a spare fiddle...  :)

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I'd imagine the octave strings are quite a bit heavier. If you're going to experiment with octave strings, depending on how thick they are, you might want to consider getting a viola bow.

As for stringing a violin as a viola: another option is to consider strings intended for undersized violas. A full-size violin and a 14-inch viola are virtually identical (the viola may be a bit wider), so strings that are labeled as being for a 13.5"-14" viola will work on a violin.

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I think it's Helicore that come in the Octave strings. I've been wanting them, haha.

I'll try to make myself jump on this Sunday. The self-doubting gremlins are hanging on longer than I'd like, but still having fun when I practice, haha. 

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damfino said
....I'll try to make myself jump on this Sunday. The self-doubting gremlins are hanging on longer than I'd like, but still having fun when I practice, haha.   

  You'll know when you are ready - so no worriesviolin_girl

  We always appreciate and look forward to your cheerful performances... Yeahhh drummerdrummerdrummer

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Sunday 3rd Dec - the next "Strings on Sunday" on StreetJelly - come along, join in and play or just watch and listen from your armchair !   8pm GMT for me, should be 3pm EST, but check the SJ calendar for your own timezones....

 

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I scheduled for right after Billy fiddlermandydoodle-notes-small.gif

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Last night I went to Fry's and bought the camera I needed. If I can find the time to set up the hardware and test it, I might jump in.

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