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Did you notice that I dressed my cello? 😁
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2023 GROUP PROJECT INFO LINK
TO MOVE IT FORWARD
For all information, click the link below
https://fiddlerman.com/2023/08.....christmas/
Confirmation of Successful Submission List
Link To a Discussion for Converting to mp4
Sheet music
Submitting instructions
Eventual click tracks
Previous group projects
Lesson Videos
YouTube Lesson Links for Group Project
Violin 1 Group Project 2023
Violin 2 Group Project 2023
Violin 4 Group Project 2023
Viola Group Project 2023
Click Tracks
Please check out the click tracks which are available below and on the project page.
Note that LogicPro didn't use my swing rhythms on the eighth notes but I expect everyone to swing the eighth notes as we did in the quartet and on the tutorials.
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Click track – All Parts
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Click Track – First Part
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Click Track – Second Part
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Click Track – Third Part
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Click Track – Fourth Part
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AnnyJ said
Hats off to everyone who has been able to complete this project.Am I the only one having trouble with this? 😳😰
@AnnyJ The project is tricky this year for a few reasons--the tempo, the triplets, the swinging 8th notes. Are you having a specific problem? Maybe we can help you out 
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SharonC said
@AnnyJ The project is tricky this year for a few reasons--the tempo, the triplets, the swinging 8th notes. Are you having a specific problem? Maybe we can help you out
@SharonC Thank you. It's the swinging 8th notes and I can't hear the piano sound on the click track while I'm playing. I'm aware I'm supposed to focus on the beat rather than the melody sound, but it's something I'm not able to do.
The bowings throw me off a bit as well.
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Will the deadline be extended ? I’m still practicing 😫
What do you guys think???
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The traditional extension will probably take place. I like people to think that it's Monday or No-day but, you guys know me. Just don't spread it too much. 😁
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I think, if you will have time, maybe extend it one week, and that is it? If you will have time to out it together before Christmas.
I think you need to address what participants can do if they are having issues with specific things.
Some members are having issues with swinging the 8th notes, or whatever the swinging is. I have no idea about swinging, and I submitted mine. I don't know how to do anything but play the note. I did the best I could and submitted it.
I think this needs to be addressed. I think that stating to add the swing is preventing some from submitting, making this a project not for every level. Could you please address whether it needs to be perfect or just as good as you can get it, at your level of playing?
Thank you, I think this will help, and allow participants to have less stress and just enjoy participating.
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I think the triplets are also an issue with some. The ending trips for cello, last measure, I just played one note, I think the last note of the trip.
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@Fiddlerman
I think, if you will have time, maybe extend it one week, and that is it? If you will have time to out it together before Christmas.
I think you need to address what participants can do if they are having issues with specific things.
Some members are having issues with swinging the 8th notes, or whatever the swinging is. I have no idea about swinging, and I submitted mine. I don't know how to do anything but play the note. I did the best I could and submitted it.
Please don't worry about swinging. If a lot of people swing differently, it'll sound fine in the mix. The tutorials cover swing a bit as well in case they are helpful. I would just do my best but not worry if it's too much of an issue. When 100 people are playing at the same time, it will give a tutti affect rather than an un-rhythmical effect.
Basically think of the first eighth note like two tied eighth notes in a triplet while the second eighth note is the 3rd triplet.
I think this needs to be addressed. I think that stating to add the swing is preventing some from submitting, making this a project not for every level. Could you please address whether it needs to be perfect or just as good as you can get it, at your level of playing?
Thank you, I think this will help, and allow participants to have less stress and just enjoy participating.
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I think the triplets are also an issue with some. The ending trips for cello, last measure, I just played one note, I think the last note of the trip.
Not following. The last measure doesn't have triplets.
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Mouse said
I think the triplets are also an issue with some. The ending trips for cello, last measure, I just played one note, I think the last note of the trip.
Not following. The last measure doesn't have triplets.
Next to last measure, sorry. Half note G, quarter note (DED), quarter note (CBA) The DED and CBA are trips, I think, equalling the quarter note. There is a 3 above them. Oh, I played the first note of each, I played, G D C for that measure. I am not able to do triplets. I think I only held the D and C as long as they would have been in a trip. My fingers just won't finger a trip right now. It just seemed natural this way to me.
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SharonC said
@AnnyJ The project is tricky this year for a few reasons--the tempo, the triplets, the swinging 8th notes. Are you having a specific problem? Maybe we can help you out
@SharonC Thank you. It's the swinging 8th notes and I can't hear the piano sound on the click track while I'm playing. I'm aware I'm supposed to focus on the beat rather than the melody sound, but it's something I'm not able to do.
The bowings throw me off a bit as well.
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Fiddlerman talks about the swing thing above, so I'll talk about the click track & bowings.
I had a hard time, too, hearing the piano on the click track—I found that the percussion sound overpowers it.
Bowings are a little tricky, too. I know I altered at least one of them in my final recording—it is what it is
Some suggestions I’d make:
1) Use the click track with all parts (rather than the individual instrument ones)—I think the piano on the all-parts track is easier to hear compared to the others.
2) Use earbuds/headphones on both ears, or if using only one, use it on your right ear. I use one earbud, and wear it in my right ear. Your instrument is under your left ear, so if you’re using one & you’re using it in your left ear, it may be harder to hear the click track.
3) Bowings. I’m thinking like in measures 6, 9-11, 17-18, 21, etc., It is kind of hard to focus on these as you’re trying to do all the other things (tempo, triplet, accidental, swing). I know I changed at least measure 10 in my recording—just happened that way, and so I just went with it.
When I’m having trouble with areas, I break down the problem measures, working backwards, and practice them slow multiple times.
Example: Measures 9-11
I’d start with the 2nd beat of the measure 11 (C, C#, D) – just those 3 notes. So that you are practicing the C to C# (however you’re playing that – sliding 2nd finger, etc.,), practicing the C, C#,D with the bowings (down up down).
Once you’ve done the 3 notes multiple times with those things, move back to the beginning of measure 11 – the triplet, which starts on a down bow, and stop on the 2nd beat C (beginning 8th note) – so you’re playing the triplet and then 1 8th note – bowing down, up, down, up, down (E,F, E, C).
After doing that multiple times, put both parts together, playing all of measure 11.
Then back up to measure 10, and approach it the same way; start with the 2nd beat of the measure, etc.,
After you’ve broken down the measures and put them back together, if you find yourself still altering bowings, but you’re good otherwise (i.e., tempo, rhythm pattern, intonation), I’d say just go with it
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If certain passages make you lose the rhythm or are too hard, add rests (don't play) and play the next measure. I do it like this when I can't keep up.
This way you have your video to participate in the project, don't be discouraged.
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I sat out and counted for the trips in measure 39, cello. I played the quarter note, counted for the 3 beats. I came back in on the 40th measure, It was an odd measure for me, and playing just one note of that trip was difficult. There was a rest as part of the triplet and it made it difficult for me. I am so bad at this! I kept missing the timing for playing the last two quarter notes in that measure. So, I counted the beats and came in on the 40th measure.
I seem to recall that I was told you could do that with the second GP I participated in. I was to count the beats and come in when zi could, but I did not drop the bow down, I kept it where is was.
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I sat out and counted for the trips in measure 39, cello. I played the quarter note, counted for the 3 beats. I came back in on the 40th measure, It was an odd measure for me, and playing just one note of that trip was difficult. There was a rest as part of the triplet and it made it difficult for me. I am so bad at this! I kept missing the timing for playing the last two quarter notes in that measure. So, I counted the beats and came in on the 40th measure.I seem to recall that I was told you could do that with the second GP I participated in. I was to count the beats and come in when zi could, but I did not drop the bow down, I kept it where is was.
Perfectly fine. 
Remember that even if someone played the first note of the baseline of a chord in every measure, it would still sound good in the mix later. Things like that won't even be audible in the end.
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@AnnyJ The project is tricky this year for a few reasons--the tempo, the triplets, the swinging 8th notes. Are you having a specific problem? Maybe we can help you out
@SharonC Thank you. It's the swinging 8th notes and I can't hear the piano sound on the click track while I'm playing. I'm aware I'm supposed to focus on the beat rather than the melody sound, but it's something I'm not able to do.
The bowings throw me off a bit as well.
It's ok if you don't do the exact bowing. It's just meant to make the tutti playing look better. When I wrote in bowings for string players in my full time orchestra positions, I would sometimes get into discussions about which bowings work best for others. Sometimes a professional will not realize how difficult bowings are for others if they are easier for themselves. Even professional string players will argue about the best solutions.
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More submissions than ever before this early in the game. Usually they all come in the same day as the deadline which is on Monday.
- 20231124_160428 Jim Thompson.mp4
- Cel_EricH Eric Horning.mp4
- Cello_Maria Maria Reinhard.mp4
- IMG_0463 Benjamin George.mov
- IMG_4077_Converted 1st Violins. Kathy (Elf) Katherine (Penquins) Mcconville.mp4
- IMG_4078 Violin 1’s -Kathy (elf) and Katherine (penguin)McConville.MOV
- Jeremy Irwin VL1_Fiddlerman Jeremy Irwin.mp4
- Jeremy Irwin VL3_Fiddlerman Jeremy Irwin.mp4
- KarenRuthGreen_vln2 Karen Green.MOV
- Katherinetucker_vl1.mp4 Katherine Tucker.mp4
- Katherinetucker_vl1replace.mp4 Katherine Tucker.mp4
- Katherinetucker.vl4.mp4 Katherine Tucker.mp4
- Mouse_cello Mouse.mp4
- SharonC_Vln1.mp4
- violin 1 Nora Nora.mp4
- Violin 1 Rhonda Brown Rhonda Brown.mp4
- violin 2 Nora Nora.mp4
- Violin 2 Rhonda Brown Rhonda Brown.mp4
- violin 3 Nora Nora.mp4
- violin 4 Nora Nora.mp4
- Violin1_CarolV Carol V (Carol Vandenberg).mp4
- Violin1thomasbailey Thomas Bailey.mp4
- Violin2_Lisa_Summerlin Lisa Summerlin.mp4
- Vl1_Angelo Walter Brandi Angel Walter Brandi.mp4
- Vl1_CaelynDalton Caelyn Dalton.mp4
- Vl2 Jim Thompson Jim Thompson.mp4
- Vl4_Fiddlerman Dale VanCllef.mp4
- Vl4_KarenBard Karen Bard.mp4
- VL4_Natalie Sindelar Natalie Sindelar.mp4
- Vln1_Carolyn_B.mp4
- VLN1_Fiddlerman Rachael Devernoe.MOV
- Vln1_JImHeiman.mp4 Jim Heiman.mp4
- Vln1_Marianne Cleataz Marianne Cleataz.mp4
- vln1_Marie-Blanche Marie-Blanche.mp4
- vln1_Maud Maud.mp4
- VLN2_Fiddlerman Rachael Devernoe.MOV
- Vln2_Marianne Cleataz Marianne Cleataz.mp4
- vln2_Maud Maud.mp4
- vln3_Maud Maud.mp4
- vln4_Maud Maud.mp4
- Vln4_May_Bhetraratana May Bhetraratana.mp4
- Vn1_Jim_Dunleavy Jim Dunleavy.mp4
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More submissions than ever before this early in the game. Usually they all come in the same day as the deadline which is on Monday.
It was a HUGE help to have the sheet music avilable so early, hint hint 😉
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I have a question regarding file naming. Is VL violin or viola?
I'm doing the violin 4 piece. I really wanted to do violin 1, but those darn triplets just come too fast for me to keep up with the tempo.
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