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Shoulder? straight bow?
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TerryT
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roflolYouTube comment when I was uploading this was

"your video seems to be a bit shaky! would you like us to remedy this?"

"shaky" is a great descriton of my technique at the mo!" lol

 

Really tried hard to bow straight and not use too much shoulder on this

seemed better until the music picked up speed, then it went all over the place.

Seems that when the shoulder should move, up and down the strings, it didn't, and my hand seemed to change height independantly.

 

any advice, practice drills etc? I'm getting a bit frustrated.

(a lot better with a Fiddlerman cap and SlipperRest though, wouldn't you agree, lol!)

 

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You dont seem to be moving your wrist, just your elbow. Your wrist has to bend while you are playing and your fingers have to be relaxed as well. As for practice to get the habit, play with your arm against a wall so that you can only move your wrist to play the notes. Hey, at least you werent swingin your arm at the shoulder! FM has some vids that show bowing and wrist flexibility. Very nice Job on the Pachebels.spike-1268

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TerryT
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5 star ibservation Picklefish, I only notice it now you mention it.
Difficult keeping the fingers relaxed and the pinkie on the bow at the same time, and feel secure in holding the bow.
Thanks for the comment, much appreciatedhats_off

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My God, Terry, that was awesome..... what improvement since I saw your last video.

I don't think anyone bow's exactly straight. As for your shoulder, it's not that bad, check out the video from a couple days ago with the guy demo'ing D'Addario strings and vibrato, his shoulder is all over the place. If it had feather's, he could fly.

You're doing marvelous.     clap

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TerryT
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Thanks Ken. I was playing along to a recording that my teacher gave me of her (violin) and husband (piano) to practice for the recital, so the quality of note is more likely down to her violin. It does mean that I can kindof forget about my intonation whilst I go back to my basic bowing technique.

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So let me take this a step at a tiime:

 

1- Great bow control

2- Perfect posture, relaxed and in control.

3- Intonation was very good to excellent

4- You smiled a couple of times ( a real plus)

5- It was beautiful.

6- Great progress from the beginning

7- You make the rest of us look bad...serenade

 

yep... YOU SUCK. 1st-place

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roflol
Thanks Denny!

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Yep, PF was spot-on with the wrist observation. Wrist flexibility (and fingers too) will take you far. Sounds really, really good!

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KindaScratchy
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Wow, that was great. Even some vibrato at the end. I'm jealous and inspired.

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Awesome job Terry I wish I bowed that straight!

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Great improvement and the wrist and finger flexibility would make your bowing even smoother.

Great work Terry.

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but the one who needs the least."

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Having the knowledge is one thing, properly applying it to ones self is another entirely. Something I constantly work on. However, answering questions does seem to remind me to remember better while I am practicing. Therapy I guess. ha ha! Hey, we will all improve together.jimi-hendrix

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WOW!!! Great!

Agreed with evrything above.

Your shoulder, as for me, is fine. Obvious improvement of the intonation! And vibrato! cheers

TerryT said
Difficult keeping the fingers relaxed and the pinkie on the bow at the same time, and feel secure in holding the bow.

It's not necessary to to keep the pinkie on the stick everytime. Mine meets the stick only in the middle of the bow on the up bowing and lives it in the middle of the bow while bowing down. For me it physically almost impossible (at least totally inconvenient) to keep it down all the time.

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