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Mini Group Project: The Ash Grove
Learn to play this traditional Welsh song and join other members in a mini group video project.
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TerryT
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I have parts 3 and 4 sorted.......

I am amazed at how old people of my age are.....

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KindaScratchy
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Steve said
Just an idle comment. As I work on the music I notice the revised melody version with the slurs is quite a bit harder to play (at least for me!) than the version without the slurs. Gives me a further goal to try to play the slurred version properly!

Steve

I thought so, too, Steve, when I first tried it with the slurs, but once you get them down I think you'll find that they really fit with the rythmn of the piece. In fact, once you get used to playing the slurs it's almost hard to play it without them.

I do, however, have trouble with the slurs on string changes, for example A to G. I know, I know, I'm probably supposed to play that combo of notes in second or third position, but I just haven't mastered that yet. For now, those notes will probably remain un-slurred for me.

When the work's all done and the sun's settin' low,

I pull out my fiddle and I rosin up the bow.

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KindaScratchy
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January 2, 2013 - 12:53 pm
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Not bad. I'll have to hand it to you, Terry, if you can pull that off. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

 facepalmrofl

 

But, if anyone submits a part 5 using armpits or any other body part, I am NOT including it.

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First chair hand was a little out of tune. I think first chair third finger was off the opposite index finger knuckle joint . I was thinking to myself, does he not know this? What kind of performance is this? Any new hand player would know you don't curl the fingers, you cup them. Come on man, go back to Suzuki Hands book 1. Second chair hand was superb. Intonation was very nice. Transitions and crossovers nothing but excellence.

 

Accompaniment violins were OK, obviously amatuers with VERY little experience. I would wager, the Hands were quicker then the Vi's.  roflol

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VinceKnight
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This is a project that I definitely think is worth trying to do , for me at least.  Of course that's if my viola arrives undamaged in the mail and if it, or more to the point I, don't sound too terrible playing this song given the fact that I have only played viola for about 2 months...and those 2 months occurred almost a year ago... :)

 

Seriously though I do look forward to participating in this project and am very glad that the due date isn't until February since my instrument probably won't arrive until next week and I will ABSOLUTELY need a few days to re-familiarize myself with the instrument.

 

One last bit and then I'll shut up.  Since you re-posted the click track and the sheet music for the violin so people wouldn't have to go digging for them could someone also re-post the link that has the cello, and viola sheet music in G as well and for the same reasons?

The pack depends upon the wolf, and the wolf depends upon the pack. The loss of one means the destruction of the other.

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KindaScratchy
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January 9, 2013 - 9:43 am
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Vince:

Here's what I found on one of the sites that Robyn recommended:

 

Viola: http://sheetmusic.lyco.org.au/.....0Viola.pdf

Cello: http://sheetmusic.lyco.org.au/.....0Cello.pdf

 

I have absolutely no experience with other clefs, however, so I have no idea whether these are in the same key as the violin part, which is in G.

Can someone look at them and weigh in?

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I pull out my fiddle and I rosin up the bow.

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VinceKnight
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Thanks a lot KindaScratchy.  As far as I can tell the key signatures are the same across all clefs so both of these are in fact in G major scale :)

My Viola should arrive between Mon. and Wed. next week, In theory, so I should be able to start practicing fairly soon! dancing violin_girl

 

-Dennis

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Yes both are in Key of G

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VinceKnight
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Hey as long as I have multiple guess options I can usually fiddle my way through things :D   duncecap

 

Also Has anyone used Muse Score and if so does anyone know how to set timing in it?  For example The Ash Grove is supposed to be played at 101Bpm and I cannot for the life of me figure out if I am even ABLE to input that kind of info into Muse Score.

 

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance

-Dennis

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KindaScratchy
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I use MuseScore and have The Ash Grove as a MuseScore file, but not with me right now. I'll post it tonight along with instructions on how to change the BPMs. (That is unless someone beats me to it during the day.)

 

BTW, is it Vince or Dennis? dunno

 

-- Diane

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VinceKnight
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Thanks a bunch!  My First Name is Dennis.  Vincent is part of my confirmation name and I have been using VinceKnight as a user name for the last 13yrs. or more so it's kind of a standard go to when registering for any Site :)

 

I can't wait for the Muse Score info given that since I am such a terrible musician I have to listen to a song in order to get the timing right facepalm so being able to input the bpm in MS would make that a WHOLE lot easier!

 

Thanks again

 

-Dennis

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Well, as it turns out, Wordpress doesn't permit uploading files with the .mscz file extension. Maybe we can figure out another way.

As for changing the BPM, just click on Display > Play Panel. A dialog box will pop up, which includes a slider bar (says Tmp at the bottom) that you can drag to the desired tempo.

I hope that helps.

 

-- Diane

When the work's all done and the sun's settin' low,

I pull out my fiddle and I rosin up the bow.

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Diane You're the Best!  It absolutely works AND Helps and should make learning some songs even easier If I learn them at a slower pace and steadily increase the tempo until I'm up to normal playing speed :D

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Try uploading those files again Diane. I made some changes. You should now be able to upload a .mscz file.

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Thanks, Pierre! I'll give it a try tonight.

When the work's all done and the sun's settin' low,

I pull out my fiddle and I rosin up the bow.

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Still not working. It seems to work...at least I don't get that error message, but after I hit save, there are no attachments. Ugh.

BTW, I still need to try to fix the click track. I was practicing with it tonight and the lag at the end bugged me.

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When the work's all done and the sun's settin' low,

I pull out my fiddle and I rosin up the bow.

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Fiddlerman
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Well you uploaded 4 files but I'm not sure if they are complete.

https://fiddlerman.com/wp-cont.....Grove.mscz
http://fiddlerman..com/wp-content/forum-file-uploads/valentineviolin/2013/01/Ash-Grove-descant.mscz

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I would like to play this song!  I feel a bit bashful to actually try and play it well though.  What's not to like in the challenge though?  (assuming I will not get kicked off the site if I come across horribly?)blurry_drunk-2127

 

Mt. Fiddler

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Also... sorry to double dip... but if I can't get those fancy electronics to work (click tracks, etc.), can I set a metronome to the certain tempo, is it 90 or??

Mt. Fiddler

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VinceKnight
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Mt. Fiddler

 

The tempo is 101 bpm.  I haven't picked up an instrument in almost a year and I am going to try to send in a vid as well so don't be bashful just give it your all.  Remember too, It's  recorded video which means you can do multiple takes :)

-Dennis

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